Slade Henson wrote:
I respectfully disagree. I think an apostate Pharisee is one who disbands with Torah and says it is of no effect or no importance.
 
The reason: Paul, even when he was noted as believing in Messiah, was allowed to engage conversation within the Synagogue. This would not be allowed for an apostate.
 
-- slade
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Allow me to do a hats off to Slade for his profound play on words -- crystal-myth. Too good  !!!!!!

It seems to me that a Pharisee who believes in the Christ, would be considered "apostate" by definition. Within the Messianic community of believers (is there another term?), I can see a continued respect for the (converted) Pharisee, but in the larger Jewish community, he would be considered apostate, would he not?  


John
Should we not keep in mind that Paul's stated desire was to be all things to all people that he might win some to Christ?  

When I was saved, my first desire was to see my friends saved.  I do not think it was much different for Paul.  He knew well that they were a self righteous bunch.  He had been one of them until God got his attention.  He wanted them to know his Savior and to be saved.  He wanted them to be new creatures in Christ, not to remain in bondage to the law.  Like his Lord, Paul was not willing for any to be lost.  Following God's plan, he went first to the Jews. When the majority of them  sneered at him, he went to the Gentiles.  It's all in the Book.
Terry




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