No, I don't. God's love and God's forgiveness are inclusive.

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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor


> Now interpret, please. So you cling to the idea that Judas was saved, in
> spite of Jesus statement that he was lost? Izzy
>
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> Did you not read my answer. I believe that the grace of God is sufficient
> for ALL.
>
>
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> Sent: December 16, 2004 17:47
> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor
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>
> > Once again the Slickmeister avoids answering a couple of simple
questions:
> >
> > (1)What do you think Jesus meant by saying that Judas is lost?
> > (2)What do you think Jesus meant by calling him the son of perdition?
> >
> > Lance, why don't you ANSWER the questions instead of ATTACKING David???
> Izzy
> >
> >
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> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
> > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 10:13 AM
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> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor
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> > I could not have answered your question with more clarity. I am deeply
> > saddened as a result of your lack of perception. What's not to
understand
> > in: 'David you are wrong'? 'Brevity', David, 'is the sould of wit'.
> Whatever
> > gifts the Lord may have granted you, concision is not one of them. This,
> my
> > scientistic acquaintance, IS A WORD TO THE WISE.
> >
> >
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> > From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: December 16, 2004 10:58
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Intentional sin -- the Judas factor
> >
> >
> > > David wrote to Lance:
> > > >> What do you think Jesus meant by saying
> > > >> that Judas is lost?
> > > >> What do you think Jesus meant by calling him
> > > >> the son of perdition?
> > >
> > > Lance wrote:
> > > > Though I'm pleased that your software package
> > > > serves you well, your 'reading' of Jesus, IMO,
> > > > does not.
> > >
> > > Avoiding answering the questions again?
> > >
> > > I guess if truth is not always logical and reasonable, there is no
> reason
> > to
> > > consider the illogical nature of the views that one might hold.  You
> just
> > > choose to believe what you what to believe, I guess.  I suppose that
the
> > > idea that "lost" does not mean "lost" is as valid a conclusion for you
> as
> > > defining what the word "lost" is meant to communicate.  For me, I am
not
> > > satisfied with an answer that says that Jesus did not mean lost when
he
> > said
> > > lost.  I need to hear what you think he meant.
> > >
> > > Peace be with you.
> > > David Miller.
> > >
> > >
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may
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