It seems I said "I find the concept intriguing."

However, I find your conclusion lacking. In like manner, Messiah died ONCE
FOR ALL... does this mean His grace is insufficient to save all because some
will not make it into the Kingdom? Heaven forbid, because His grace would be
insufficient even for someone willing like me.

There is more here than the more simple conclusion of *insufficiency of
Yeshua's faith.*

Please don't go back to the "none are lost" argument. That horse is already
dead and it stinks [the horse, that is].

-- slade

-----Original Message-----
From: ShieldsFamily
Sent: Friday, 24 December, 2004 13.59
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Flesh and Spirit

Slade & Lance,If your theology is correct then it seems that if any are lost
it is because Christ was not faithful.  So whaddaya say? (Perhaps you think
none are lost?) Izzy

-----Original Message-----
Rabbi Schiffman who taught the winterim class last year mentioned that same
concept. It was new to me and I find the concept intriguing. It puts even
more credit to Yeshua and less to us!

From: Lance Muir
what's being put forward is that we are saved through the faithfulness of
Christ NOT Our faith IN Christ.

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