It seems I said "I find the concept intriguing." However, I find your conclusion lacking. In like manner, Messiah died ONCE FOR ALL... does this mean His grace is insufficient to save all because some will not make it into the Kingdom? Heaven forbid, because His grace would be insufficient even for someone willing like me.
There is more here than the more simple conclusion of *insufficiency of Yeshua's faith.* Please don't go back to the "none are lost" argument. That horse is already dead and it stinks [the horse, that is]. -- slade -----Original Message----- From: ShieldsFamily Sent: Friday, 24 December, 2004 13.59 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Flesh and Spirit Slade & Lance,If your theology is correct then it seems that if any are lost it is because Christ was not faithful. So whaddaya say? (Perhaps you think none are lost?) Izzy -----Original Message----- Rabbi Schiffman who taught the winterim class last year mentioned that same concept. It was new to me and I find the concept intriguing. It puts even more credit to Yeshua and less to us! From: Lance Muir what's being put forward is that we are saved through the faithfulness of Christ NOT Our faith IN Christ. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.

