Re: [TruthTalk] The Mind of Christ

[Bill Taylor]

HUH? :>) ----- Original Message ----- From: Slade Henson To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 7:27 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Mind of Christ When it comes to the Eternal Word/Eternal Son thing, this is the equation I use....   Memra L'Maryah (Aramaic Word of the LORD) = Devar haShem (Hebrew Word of YHVH) = The Son = Yeshua = Jesus = The Light = The Life = Torah made Flesh = The Word = The Way = The Holy One of Israel = The Eternal Truth = Captain of the Host of YHVH = Messiah/Mashiach/Christ/Meshecheinu = YHVH = Echad.   Beyond that is purely speculative on my part. I'm too stoopid to make an educated guess.   -- slade -----Original Message----- From:  Bill Taylor Sent: Sunday, 26 December, 2004 17.34 Subject: [TruthTalk] The Mind of Christ Slade for the sake of our own understanding, will you please clarify: What is it that you are affirming in Judy's post: 1) her statement above, or 2) the overall tenor of her post, or 3) both of these?   Thanks, Bill   Ok. I will color the text I was specifically agreeing with. I will make everything else black. It all begins with Izzy's post which stated, " I fail to see the importance of it. When you see the Son you see the Father. They are One. So what�s your earthshaking point??? Izzy" Everything I wrote is in the context of Izzy's comment, "They are One." I've noticed that if I try to agree with a point, there is automatic disagreement on the conditions of agreement. If I disagree, there's... well... disagreement. I either ignore the posts completely or attempt to give small, short, succinct answers so there will be little or no response.   -- slade   -----Original Message----- From: Judy Taylor Sent: Sunday, 26 December, 2004 13.28 Subject: [TruthTalk] The Mind of Christ jt: In Vs.6 Jesus says "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man comes to the Father but by Me If ye had  known Me ye should have known My Father also" and he goes on to say "and from henceforth, ye know Him and have seen Him".    slade interjection: As I said before, I have no problem with the someone disagreeing on the use of "see" versus "experience." I choose "experience" because of my understanding of the active tenses in Hebrew: "see" is not active, whereas "experience" indicates an environment of action. Also, the concept of Echad/Oneness is verified.  Jesus speaks these words to His disciples in the Upper Room - They validate my assertion that Jesus is the "Eternal Word" rather than the "Eternal Son" - What does Jesus mean when He speaks of "seeing and knowing the Father through Himself?" Were they to see His fleshly image or his title? I don't think so, He goes on to explain in Vs.10    "the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself; but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father in me; or else believe me for the very works' sake.  Verily, verily I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works thatn these shall he do, because I go unto my Father.....    slade interjection: the concept of Yeshua and Abba as being Echad/One is verified here.   So - it's not about "experience" - it's about words...or more specifically "The Word" reread the Parable of the Sower.