Re: [TruthTalk] The Mind of Christ

[Bill Taylor]

Bill, sorry to take so long to get back to you.  I�m a bit behind on TT.  We had 17 here for dinner last night, and are making great memories together this week. J As to what you wrote above, I have no problem with it.  I always assumed that God said �Let us create Man in our image� was spoken by the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.  I assume He created us in the likeness, physically, of Christ, and then He came to be �like� us.  All that said, this is so not relevant to my personal faith and how I live that I never stop to speculate about it.  I don�t worship �relationship�, and it sometimes appears to me that your theology does.  Can you explain that to me? Izzy   Thanks Izzy,   Well (of course), I do not believe I worship "relationship." But I am deeply committed to our relational God -- and that then includes the way in which I know him and teach to others the "who" of who he is. It seems to me it is this "who-ness" that people find so difficult to relate to. I know that this is all new to most Christians; it is not new to the Faith, however. I long to be always able to find the relational balance between teaching this Patristic _expression_ of early Christianity, without alienating Christians in the process. That balance is oh so difficult to find, and even harder to keep. Please hang in there with me :>)   Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 12:55 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Mind of Christ     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Taylor Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 3:16 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Mind of Christ   Thank you very much, Izzy. I apologize for not expressing the significance of my concern more clearly. You say that 'Jesus' existed with the Father prior to His appearance in physical form. My question for you is, was Jesus the Father's Son when he existed in this eternal pre-incarnate state with his "FATHER"?   Please do not misunderstand me: I am not arguing for an eternal physical Son. I am arguing for an eternal Son who became physical at a point in human history, a Son who embodied flesh to be "God with us," that we might know the heart of God, God for who he is, that we might more fully uphold in our worship and devotion this most central of truths: the eternal loving relationship between the Father and the Son and the Son and the Father in the Holy Spirit.      Bill, sorry to take so long to get back to you.  I�m a bit behind on TT.  We had 17 here for dinner last night, and are making great memories together this week. J As to what you wrote above, I have no problem with it.  I always assumed that God said �Let us create Man in our image� was spoken by the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.  I assume He created us in the likeness, physically, of Christ, and then He came to be �like� us.  All that said, this is so not relevant to my personal faith and how I live that I never stop to speculate about it.  I don�t worship �relationship�, and it sometimes appears to me that your theology does.  Can you explain that to me? Izzy