Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Are there any bad Christian's in the House?

Kay: The question is: How do we bring others to KNOW when we show what jerks we are towards others? For instance...before I became a Believer, I wanted nothing to do with anyone who called themselves Christian. Why would someone want a Savior/Redeemer...to become like "bad Christians"?  Does the Lord accept as His own the one with a kind heart, who shows fruits of the Spirit but does not believe? I know more non-believers who have fruitful trees and kind hearts than I know Believers, or at least those who profe

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Judy: Hopefully we know the love of God and will not be acting like jerks toward others.  Before I became a believer I felt the same way Kay but not because of bad Christians, it was because the powers of darkness held so much sway over my life and they always influence either in the negative or weird over the top positive concerning anything that has to do with God. Only the Lord has ability to weigh the motivations of a person's heart and lots of ppl are street angels and house devils. My own grandfather was like that. He was blessed with a beautiful well trained Bass voice (like Paul Robeson), used to sing the Crucifixion, win competitions, and sing duets with the Minister. He was choirmaster for years; had a natural charisma and was loved by everyone. He also belonged to the Masonic Lodge.  But at home it was another story. He was penurious, with his family, he drank to much, and he kept the women of the house walking on egg shells because they never knew what shape he would come home in especially if they had seen him walking with the farmers to the pub.  I'm in no position to judge the man's heart, after all he was a faithful and active Church member fwho kept his family in Church for his whole life but I can say that there was no spiritual fruit in his life and even less spiritual discernment and/or spiritual authority in the lives of the Ministers he served with..

I now wonder if this is why my 99yr old mother is bitter and angry with God to this day.  She and her sister Ann went to talk with the Minister (who to them represented God) about their problems at home; my mother was 10 and Anne was 8yrs old.  Their mother was visiting relatives for health reasons and their father was 'in his cups and acting up' - It must have been a huge thing for two young girls to seek help like that in 1916 but sadly - being more political than spiritual - their Minister said and did nothing - so two young hearts were hardened. Jesus told us not to judge by outward appearance or even what we hear but to judge spiritually - I don't believe the religious scene in most Churches has changed a whole lot from 1916 to now and Church houses are still  full of hardened, hurting, and wounded, people who many times act like jerks.  It's not easy to walk in love toward them but when we do it shows that God's love is being perfected in our own hearts.

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