I really don't know Lance. I find it strange that Johnson wanted to be a mountan man long after the "Shining Times" of the mountan men. What I mean is that at the beginning of the movie we see Johnson heading west looking for a place to trap, "beavers, bears, fox, and such..." Along with the clothing etc. (Johnson's cavalry britches) we are led to assume that here is a man that has seen way too much death and destruction following the Civil War. This is reinforced by Will Geer's character,Bear Claw, who comments on the fact that there must have been another war "down there".
  Consider Bear Claw for a moment, he was one of the last of the old time mountain men. That period was from around 1820-40 give or take a few years. The last war he might have been aware of would have been the was of 1812. So anyway, heres Johnson a man who has decided to leave civilization behind. Why, I think the horror and pain of the war pushed him to seek solitude to heal his broken spirit. But as we know that is not what happened. When I first saw this movie I enjoyed it because of my interest in the mountain men, etc. an interest that grew for many years and led to a little Historical reenacting on my part. Funny how things work out though, reenacting for me became focused on the French and Indian Wars instead of the fur trade period.
  Where was I going with this? donno? Lets see what you guys have to say?
Jeff
 
Life makes warriors of us all.
To emerge the victors, we must arm
ourselves with the most potent of weapons.
That weapon is prayer.
--Rebbe Nachman of Breslov
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Lance Muir
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 13:39
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The place of creeds in relation to truth

So then, 'Jeremiah Johnson' fans, let's talk. What is there 'bout this predominantly solitary figure that's got us watching it again and again? 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: January 01, 2005 12:22
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The place of creeds in relation to truth

Lapsang Suchong? Ahh, Bro. John, if ya don't have any of that I'll settle for some green tea! As one of those "evil messianics" I guess I resemble that comment. But a cup of tea and a little honest dialogue without all the emotion and I think we can realize the common ground of which John speaks.
  Happy New Year, and here's a raised cup to a new beginning on truth talk! And now I'm off to vegatate in front of the tv and watch "Hang Em High", not the most enlightening or critically appraised film ever made, but then I'm not the most critical of movie watchers anyway!
 BTW John, "Jeremiah Johnson" is one of my all time favorites also! Along with "The Mountain Men" and "Last of the Mohicans".
Jeff
 
Life makes warriors of us all.
To emerge the victors, we must arm
ourselves with the most potent of weapons.
That weapon is prayer.
--Rebbe Nachman of Breslov
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 11:24
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The place of creeds in relation to truth

Tea, anyone?

Pastor Smtherson






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