jt: From what I can understand John is saying that children are not born into the first Adam or in a lost condition which is opposite to the teaching of scripture which tells us that this is so and this is the reason why everyone must be "born again" into the 2nd Adam if they are to inherit God's Kingdom. I don't agonize over the lost, saved, lost, saved, issue with children - I rest in God's love and his mercy.
 
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:40:09 -0500 "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
I think....correct me if I'm wrong, John....
that John is saying that a child is "saved" when he is born. A newborn is not cast into hell because he wasn't "born again". A child who dies goes to heaven...until he is of the age of accountability and makes his decision...either for God and "heavenbound", or against God and "hellbound".  Kay
John writes:
It just dawned on me  --   the child is not lost at birth, born into sin and all that; rather, he is saved and then lost in self serving crap, and then saved as he responds to what is already his, crucifies himself,   and chooses to live the life he was created to live.  What do you think about THAT !!!!  ??
 
jt: Unscriptural John.  How did he get born saved since everyone is born into a "fallen creation" (sin) in the first Adam. The scriptures teach that God saw us in Christ before the foundation of the world (Eph 1:4) and everyone's name was written in the Lamb's Book of Life at the beginning because Jesus was the lamb slain before the foundation of the world. However, this does not negate the fall nor does it insure salvation unless one keeps their name from being blotted out.  The soul that sinneth, it shall die. Is an eternal truth So rather than get so tangled up with saved, not saved, saved, not saved. Wouldn't we be wiser to learn what God call's sin and stop doing it?
 
John: Interesting scripture, Judy.   Our names are in that book from the beginning.  Wow.  I had forgotten this passage.   Do you see God erasing some of these names?  I don't.  
 
jt: Yes I do, only the ones who overcome make it.  Moses was aware that one could be blotted out (Exodus 32:32) and so was David (Ps 69:28). Jesus Himself says of the one who "overcomes" - I will not erase his name from the book of life (Rev 3:5). 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

  
 

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