Jeff
----- Original Message ----- From: "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:00
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Definition of Mormon Please
Isn't that the same thing Catholics say? You go to hell unless you're Catholic? And JW's? Aren't they like the 144,000 and if you aren't one of them, you go to hell? There is no church who can lead its members to salvation. Salvation is grace through faith.
Kay
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 11.47 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Definition of Mormon Please
1) This Church is the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth .... there is NO SALVATION outside the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. (Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, Page 670) 2) "We cannot accept that any other church can lead its members to SALVATION." (The Masters Church, Course A, Mormon Sunday school text.) Kay where does that leave you?
How about this one DaveH? Give us a definition of "Mormon" I know the official term is LDS, you have no problem with the use of Mormon, do you?
--- ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kay, in the past nine years this has been explained to DaveH "ad nauseum". It's a ploy. Why don't YOU try to get through to him? Izzy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:45 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2
He didn't ask what a Christian is NOT, he asked what the definition for Christian IS. He didn't ask about Joseph Smith and his alleged activities or ideas are/were.
Kay
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 10.32 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2
DaveH, You are simply straining at gnats to avoid the obvious. Here's what is Christian IS NOT: a believer in multiple-gods, or that Jesus is just another one of us gods, or that we can all evolve into another Jesus, or that everyone born on earth is born due to some gods in heaven having sexual relations, or that JS was a prophet, or that JS was not a liar and adulterer and statutory rapist, or any of the other bizarre ideas incubated by him are true, etc.. But of course you know all of this, and are completely in your zone when strife breaks out among naive brethren over mormonism's false claims to Christianity. Izzy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Several on this list claim they are speaking out of love, ala Yeshua.
I say that they are decieved and lying when they do this.
Why else would they attack Dave Hanson(or any one else) for his beliefs.
I pity you petty little people.
Jeff
Jeff, I believe you are committing ad hominem attacks here. I am sure you cannot show us a single word of attack spoken against Dave Hanson; only against speaking of mormon theology as being truly Christian (which it isn't-and if you think so, perhaps you should listen more to Perry
DAVEH: Sorry for intruding on this, Izzy. I've asked Perry (several times) for his definition of Christian, but he seems reluctant to mention anything except his disdain for my beliefs. I've got no problem with his dislike of my faith, but I do find it curious that he refrains from posting a definition of Christian, especially when he disqualifies me of being one. If I didn't know better, I'd say it's almost like a club that won't let you join IF you don't know the rules....and nobody will tell you the rules.
BTW Izzy....how about you? May I implore you to weigh in on this as well? How do you define Christian?
and talk less?) Therefore you are possibly guilty of your own accusations. Izzy
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