Judy Taylor wrote:
 
 
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:17:28 -0800 Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
DAVEH:   My current comments are in RED.........
No, the question itself...you lost me. But, I have PS. 82 open and my translation (Complete Jewish Bible) says...Elohim [gods, judges]. I think what you're referring to is the .....you are gods part, right?
DAVEH:  Yes, that is how I read it as well.  Perry mentioned that it was referring to judges who judge in behalf of God (I hope I've got that right, Perry).  But if that were the case, I don't understand why Jesus would refer to theos (Jn 10:34&35), suggesting a deity to be worshiped, to be used in his defense.  DavidM seemingly gave a pretty good logical explanation yesterday that I will ponder when I have more time.    I'm just not sure labeling them as judges quite does justice to the meaning of Ps 82.  Why would the author do that IF he could have used judges instead.  Maybe I should be asking the question....would judges have been a better term to use....if not, why not?  Had PS 82 used judges, I doubt Jesus would have referenced it in his defense.
jt: Why not Daveh?
DAVEH:  IF gods in Ps 82 had not related to some facet beyond being simply judges, then Jesus' retort would not have held much weight....His detractors would have simply said the same things TTers are saying to me about the meaning of gods in Ps 82.
Wasn't he speaking at Solomon's Porch in the temple so we can assume there were some Jewish leaders there, (the ones ordained to judge the people on God's behalf)?  An alternative is Psalm 96:5 which says "For all the gods of the nations are idols" but I don't believe
Jesus would identify himself with that, do you?
DAVEH:  My point exactly.  He identified himself with the gods of Ps 82 instead of 96:5.  Were the gods of Ps 82 idols?   .....I don't think so.....do you?

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