DAVEH: Well Kevin, you do have an interesting perspective on the use of logic. Just so there aren't any misconceptions about the opinions I post on TT.....
You are right, Kevin....I am not an official spokesman for the LDS Church. When you or other TTers ask me a question, I endeavor to answer it the best I can according to my understanding of LDS theology at the current time. I'd like to think I get it right every time, but sometimes I fail to convey the message in a way you understand it properly. For that, I apologize.KD Seems to me your private interpretation is not allowed
If I am wrong please comment on the "Context" of this quote:
" Have we not a right to make up our minds in relation to the things recorded in the word of God, and speak about them, whether the living oracles believe our views or not? We have not the right...God placed Joseph Smith at the head of this church; God has likewise placed Brigham Young at the head of this church; and he has required you and me, male and female, to sustain those authorities placed over us in all things, and receive their words as from the mouth of God..." - Orson Pratt, Apostle, Journal of Discourses 7:374-375, Sermon January 29, 1860
If you think I've usurped any of the power, authority or knowledge of any of the prophets of God....I'll apologize to you (and them) for that as well. Again, I merely am trying to answer questions as I understand the theology.
Now, I do have one advantage over non LDS folks. Having been around Mormonism for nearly 50 years, I've kinda got a feel for the way LDS people think and believe. When you quote one of the LDS Authorities, or Latter-day Scripture, I can generally get a feel for what they were trying to convey. Due to the way we define some of the terms used in common with Protestants, I fully understand why you may get the wrong impression when taking some of those comments out of context. That's OK though....I don't mind trying to set the record straight, IF you'll allow me to do so.
But that is not always possible, as sometimes you tend to jump from one thing to another so quickly, I can't keep up with all you are trying to post, Kevin. If you prefer to think I'm not a True Mormon...That's up to you. Maybe I'm not. Frankly.......I'd rather not be the judge of that anyway. FWIW....I'll leave the judging to the Lord.
I've got the feeling that you will paint me the way you want Kevin, regardless of the facts. Hmmmmm.....just what is it you want from me, anyway? Do you think I'm trying to deceive you? Or change you? Right now I'm wondering why you even respond to any of my posts, as you don't seem to want to carry on a pertinent discussion. Bottom line..............Do you simply want to stop discussing stuff with me, Kevin?KD I think that before I was on this forum you tended to paint a different picture of mormonism and were happy to tag along any who would follow
Of course I would love to Discuss with you but there is a string of 50 or 60 questions asked multiple times in multiple ways that you would not answer. What do we do with those things hard to answer. We are not talking of things sacred here. just simple questions
The reason I did not answer or answered in a strange order is that I was out of town for 4 days. When i returned Sunday I had a a lot of mail in my box. I also have a life.
I posted the below quotes to show you have no authority to interpret or to DISAGREE according to the Authorities
Kevin Deegan wrote:Dave must adhere to "all the good" and choose the right, else he is not a True Mormon"Hve the Presbyterians ANY truth? Yes Have the Baptists, Methodists, etc. ANY truth? Yes. They all have a LITTLE truth mixed with ERROR. We should gather ALL THE GOOD and true principles in the world and treasure them up, or we shall not come out true Mormons"
Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith p.316
Dave has testified that he follows the ProphetAt Gen conf LDS put their arm to the square and "consent" to the prophet.And all things shall be done by common consent in the church, by much prayer and faith, for all things you shall receive by faith. Amen.Dave is not a spokesman for the church"General Authorities today have the responsibility and priviledge to be SPOKESMEN" Teachings of the Living prophetsSince Dave claims to be part of the Mormon Church he must follow the principles below as to the prophetSection 3-5 "The Living prophet Alone may speak Authoratatively to and for the Whole Church""HE IS GOD'S SOLE MOUTHPIECE ON EARTH""He ALONE may declare the mind and will of God" So when any other person irrespective of who he is, undertakes to do any of these things, you may know that he is not 'moved upon by the Holy Ghost'"Teachings of the Living Prophets-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
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