DAVEH:  I didn't mean to get tricky with you in my answer, Lance.  It is just that the question you asked, and the manner in which it was asked, can lead to seemingly contradictory problems in my answer IF I try to keep the answer short.  IF I were to give the long answer, some might criticize me suggesting that I'm trying to teach Mormonism.  That may not make much sense, so let me try to explain it.  Your original question was......

Procreation vis a vis all 'gods' is, I believe, central to your teaching is it not?

.......First, you qualified it by using the term ALL.  By doing that, the technical answer is no.  Not all Gods must pro-create, as I understand it.  (But....I could be wrong....it is a question I've never posed to other LDS folks, nor have I given it much thought.)

    However, the (continued) creation of mankind....or more specifically.....godkind, if that is a word.....is central to LDS theology.  The Lord created us so that we could further create.  If that were not so, don't you suppose he could simply have created us as he did Adam and Eve.....

    Let me ask you, Lance.  Why do you think God created us?  LDS theology teaches that he did it so that we can become like him.....which means he intends us to become creative, as he was/is creative.  So....just as the God created us and our world, I believe that those who become perfect like him, will also be able to create as did he.

    Does that explain it adequately, Lance?

    Now....back to my questions, Lance.  Do you believe it would have been a sin for Jesus to have children?   And related to that, do you believe God told A&E to sin when he commanded them to have children?

   

Lance Muir wrote:
Dave:I am not telling you how you must answer. I am genuinely asking a question. Please, don't do a 'David' on me with this question.
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Lance Muir wrote:
Dave:Would you kindly answer my 'is it not so' question?
DAVEH:  Sorry 'bout that Lance.   It didn't seem to me like you were really asking a question as much as making a point with an exclamatory question. 

    Furthermore, I'm not sure I can accurately/easily answer your question.  Technically, as I understand it, the answer to your question is no.  But in a general sense, I think the answer you are requesting is yes.

Lance Muir wrote:
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM DAVID MILLER ON THIS ONE. I believe that I understand why Dave (I'm dropping the 'H' as I'm capable of distinguishing between Dave and David) would NOT consider this blasphemous. Procreation vis a vis all 'gods' is, I believe, central to your teaching is it not?
 
The one act of procreation by God, as I understand it, is that of a supernatural conception attested to in Scripture. Were Jesus, as a man, to have done so it would have fallen into a catetgory other than this.
DAVEH:  If that were true, then when God commanded Adam and Eve to populate the world, would the Lord have been commanding A&E to sin?
 
 
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jonathan's Book Review (Discussion)

DAVEH:   I'm not sure I should step forward on this, Lance, as I do not know of any specific proof one way or the other.   So....FTR, I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other.  However, I do not believe such would be blasphemous, as was suggested below.  I am curious though....Why would Christians consider it blasphemous for Jesus to have been married and had children?

Lance Muir wrote:
If anyone, and I do mean ANYONE ON TT, subscribes to this position posited by Linda (you actually believe this?) please step forward.

That Jesus had a baby by Mary for starters. Izzy



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