RE: [TruthTalk] Stirring up the fallow ground-used to be What is a Ch ristian?

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Perry, I think prayer paves the way by sending the preparation of the Holy Spirit.  I believe it was Arthur Blessit who said that NO ONE gets saved unless someone has prayed for them first.  But then the Word must be preached, as you correctly assert. Izzy   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 12:33 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Stirring up the fallow ground-used to be What is a Ch ristian?   Dave,      Please show me the scriptures that says one comes to faith by praying for them. I am not saying this does not or cannot happen, I just would like some references.   According to Romans 10, the gospel is to be preached to bring peopel to faith. Paul prayed for the salvation of Israel, but that is not what he claims brings them to faith:   13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.   Perry     >From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Stirring up the fallow ground-used to be What is a >Ch ristian? >Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 21:56:17 -0800 >  >DAVEH:   Prayer..... >  >Kevin Deegan wrote: >  >>Good question! >>  >>*/Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: >>  >>     Blaine, please tell us what evangelical approach would work best with >>     Mormons, especially at the General Conference. Help us out here. >>  >>     Thanks, >>     Perry >>  >>  >><http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/jibjabinaugural.html> >  >  >-- >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Dave Hansen >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.langlitz.com >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >If you wish to receive >things I find interesting, >I maintain six email lists... >JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, >STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS. >      ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org   If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed.  If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.