Good points, jt.

 

Excuse my butt in Izzy and Bill - I think we have some helpful examples in scripture, the first being Peter's epiphany where Jesus told him flesh and blood had not revealed this to him, it had come from the Fr in heaven. The second is Paul's gospel which he said did not come by way of man. God revealed it to him although he no doubt had a copy of the scriptures and as a Pharisee he had been trained in the law of Moses. Without Christ however, the Bible is a closed book as Izzy points out - The Jews even today have a veil when reading Moses which veil is taken away in Christ.  IMO doctrines of men are every bit as bad as their veil because they blind people, divide, and conquer.  What happened between the first Church Council in Acts 15:28,29 and the Council of Nicea?  The first trusted the Holy Spirit to guide the baby believers at Antioch; whereas the second took a control and responsibility that was not God given and which transformed a God inspired organism into a man made organization with creeds, rituals, and religious trappings - mainly pagan. judyt

 

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