WELL SAID, DAVID! Please speak further on the 'counterfeit'. As you undoubtedly speak from personal experience, will you then illustrate with some specificity?
thanks, Lance ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: February 01, 2005 09:57 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God's Eye View > Bill wrote: > > ... the fact remains, Izzy, that once we have > > both spoken what we believe is the truth from > > God, we often find that our statements contradict > > each other, and it hits us that at best only one of > > us can be speaking from the vantage point of that > > God's-eye view. > > Sometimes, both are speaking from God because we all only receive a word of > truth, not the entire truth. None of us have perfect understanding of the > entire truth. Sometimes we have trouble seeing how our perception and that > of another fits together, but we can be confident that they do fit together. > > Ever put a complicated puzzle together? Some people get frustrated and say, > "what's the point." They quit. Others continue to work on it week after > week. They are patient. They have confidence that the manufacturer made > all the pieces to fit together, so even though they cannot make them fit > right away, they are patient to work things out and cause them to fit > together until in the end, the whole picture is there before them. > Sometimes, when it gets tough, they back away from the pieces and look at > the whole picture on the box to get an idea of how the pieces should come > together. Then they stop looking at the whole picture and begin to work > with the pieces again. Over time, with much work, they discover how the > pieces fit together. > > Ever work on a big puzzle with several other people? Ever work on one with > both children and adults? The children often are limited in their ability > to cause the right pieces to fit together. Sometimes we need more patience > to allow them to work on the puzzle with us. Sometimes the children get > frustrated and reach their hand out to mess up the pieces that we had > already fit together. They don't like the fact that you can do this but > they cannot. They don't want anybody to do it. Then we get upset because > they disturbed work that we had laboriously and diligently worked to get > right. > > Taking our perspectives of truth and bringing them together is much like > putting a big puzzle together. Sometimes we try and fit the pieces > together, but they don't fit. We think, "who is right?" or "who is wrong?" > but just because the pieces don't fit together right away in an obvious > fashion does not mean either is wrong. Maybe we need some other pieces in > between that then cause the pieces we have to be joined together through the > other pieces. This is why we labor in study and in hearing one another, so > that we can cause the truth to work. > > The problem is that there are fakers out there too. There are people who > pretend to be good at putting the puzzle together, but the pieces they bring > do not belong to the puzzle. They are counterfeit pieces. It is sometimes > difficult to know whether a piece is a counterfeit or simply a truth that we > have not yet been able to fit into the puzzle. We have to be cautious about > not dismissing pieces which are not really counterfeits. I think it is more > important to err on the side of continued consideration of a counterfeit > piece than erroneously dismissing a piece as a counterfeit piece when in > fact it really was a true piece. > > Bill Taylor wrote: > > ... we do both believe we are right about what > > we believe and that we have received this "truth" > > from the Spirit of God, yet we often disagree, > > and so, which one of us truly does have the > > God's-eye view? Do either of us speak from > > this vantage point? I think not. > > It may be that you are confusing terms here. There is knowledge that come s > through study and then there is knowledge imparted by the Holy Spirit. If > you primarily obtain your knowledge through reading others, it might be > easier for you to assume that nobody speaks from God's viewpoint. However, > those who have experienced the gift of prophecy are going to be much less > reluctant to grant you the point that nobody speaks from God's vantage > point. The enlightening power of prophecy to clarify a matter is too > stunning to dismiss so easily. To accept the idea that nobody speaks from > God's vantage point leads to rejecting the gift of prophecy for the church > today. Prophecy is speaking a word from God's perspective, and so if nobody > has that, then nobody has the prophetic gift. > > Peace be with you. > David Miller. > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. 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