I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
If you do not bear fruit what is that to me?
Whatever you call it (success) My father said much fruit glorifies Him
I suggest you talk to God about it.
I doubt that you and I will find much "commonality"
I do not care to.
I care to find "Commonality" with Jesus Christ and His book shows me how!
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection
That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death
More about Jesus would I know!
I do not need the Greek to show me this.
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In a message dated 2/3/2005 6:04:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
They are never dealt with because they carry a deeper meaning to those that hold the peculiar LDS doctrines. Not knowing all the doctrines issues and wordings makes one sort of out of the loop in some ways.
As does a failure to understand the history of the times and the universal need from the patient application of grace. There are things that you write, on occasion, that make me think you are the only one involved in these discussions who has played a hand in the conversion of others. "Success" as defined in this manner is not necessarily success.
I see much in the Mormon Faith that I will never be able to accept. Nor do I accept their scripture (i.e. The Book of Mormon, the D&C and the PoGP) as mine. But ditto for the Catholic Bible or the way Legalists use the same Bible I use. If we cannot find a point of commonality, the discussion becomes pointless after all arguments have been presented.
John
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