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When the 'K' man's impact in Utah is found to be
comparable to that of Wilberforce in Britain then, you just may have a
point.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: February 03, 2005 21:24
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] On occupying
antithetical positions
Thanks I thought he was talking about that song from Mary
Popins! Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Tencious and blunt maybe but supercillious??
I don't pick up any air of superiority about Kevin at all. Are you aware
Lance that ppl like him turned England around during the 18th Century. These
men were evangelists who were not wealthy or highly connected; they didn't
have money to buy adherents or family influence to command attention and
respect. They did Christ's work the old apostolic way. They were bold
and did not fear the face of man. I've read that the ppl in high places
made it known that they despised them. The educated class sneered at them as
fanatics; the humorists made jokes and invented sarcastic names for them,
and the Church of England shut the doors and gave them the cold
shoulder..
These men preached fervently and directly
proclaiming the words of faith with faith. They taught
the corruption of human nature rather than the modern notion that
Christ is in every man and that all possess something good within that just
needs stirring up - their first step toward making men good was to show them
that they were bad.. The reformers of the 18th century taught
that Christ's death upon the cross was the ONLY satisfaction for man's
sin.... and they turned England around. The Truth will make men
free... Why stone the messenger?
Have you heard Kevin preach to the Mormons in Salt
Lake City Lance? jt
Kevin says: 'They will not change by skilled
reasoning.' Please describe the nature of the content of your own posts,
Kevin.
Are we witnessing the wisdom of God or,
the wisdom of Kevin? If a Mormon I, I'd be quite unmoved. On the whole
they
(your arguments) are quite
supercillious.
They will not change by skilled reasoning.
God's way is
For after that in the wisdom of God the
world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of
preaching to save them that believe.
Try it Please God, get some saved
It works, we have had many saved and join a local congregation in
SLC
**note subject change**
I'm aware of organizations who call
themselves 'Ex-Mormons for Jesus.' I have audio lectures delivered by
such persons. The circumstances underlying their 'change' are many
and, varied.
Are there organizations who call
themselves 'Ex-evangelicals (now Mormon) for Jesus? Will someone tell
us of them by name. I'd like to hear their 'story'.
Do you all realize how unlikely it is,
naturally speaking, that persons occupying a faith tradition
antithetical to yours will ever leave it? My goodness, just look at
the conversations BETWEEN 'professing' believers. Some put forward
skilled and articulate arguments for ...(whatever). When did you last
see someone respond with, 'by jove I believe I'll change my mind on
this!'? It hasn't happened and it ain't gonna happen.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: February 03, 2005
06:59
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Prayer
in Evangelism
The truth horns are for large crowds or areas with lots of
Noise
Did you see the presidents State of the Union address?
Is that the only legitimate use of amplification?
Free Speech carries with it the right to be
heard. Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: G,
My
question to Blaine was in response to his knocking SP's,
particularly
those at the LDS GC and their methods. I thought
it would be interesting to
find out what he thinks would be
the best way to evangelize Mormons. While
sending out
missionaries two by may two work in peoples homes, it is not
practical in a public open-air setting. Dave brought up prayer
and
bullhorns. Prayer is not how the Bible tells us people
come to faith. While
I believe tht praying for those you wish
to come to faith is useful, Paul
tells us that preaching is
the way people hear the word of God. Paul made
good on this
himself, as did most of the Aposles. As for bullhorns, I must
agree that if someone came into my house with a bullhorn and
began to
preach, I would not like it. But, if they needed to
be heard over background
noise, hecklers, or other noise in an
outdoor setting, I think bullhorns are
a good
tool.
Perry
>From:
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>Reply-To:
[email protected]
>To:
[email protected]
>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Prayer
in Evangelism
>Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 16:28:38
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>
>
>there are *evangelical approaches to
evangelizing* on which not all
>evangelicals are agreeing,
so what is *evangelical evangelizing*?
>
>..also, how
many street preachers involved in the SLC events discussed
on
>TT are evangelical/s?
>
>e.g., what about
Kevin's position on 'evangelicals'; maybe he prefers to
>be
understood in a non-evangelical category
>
>..well,
ftr perhaps Perry would delve into the background of his
question
>to BB, below(?)
>
>also, ppl like
Kevin, perhaps other street preachers, too, will want
to
>distinguish themselves on this underlying issue--we'll
see
>
>G
>
>
>On Wed, 02 Feb 2005
07:09:34 -0800 Dave Hansen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>writes:
>||
> >
>
> DAVEH: Perry, I assume your reply means you really are not
looking
> > for an answer to your question posed at the
very bottom[*]..to know how
>
> > to *evangelize*
Mormons.
>||...
>||...
>[*]>>>>>>Blaine,
please tell us what *evangelical approach* would
>
>>>>>>>work best with Mormons, especially at
the General Conference.
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