By golly, I think you are right. That Pig!!! Glenn is up to his old tricks--see what happens when you hang with that devil, Gary??? And that was my last straw after all the mean things you said. So are we going to make up now or not? I apologize for thinking you were Glenn as well. Izzy
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 10:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy's response Izzy, it appears as though the "ha ha" message is from Glen Tabor...remember Glen? This was not Gary if the header is correct. >From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy's response >Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:07:26 -0600 > >Gary, after having the opportunity to verbalize my feelings, I would like >to >apologize for my first sentence below. Even though you hurt my feelings I >hope you know I have no desire to hurt yours (or the Mormons for that >matter). I was really looking forward to seeing you grow as our Moderator. >I hope you will accept my fig leaf and renew your efforts with good >intentions towards those you dislike as well as those you don't. I will >stay if you will do us that favor. Sincerely, Izzy > > > > _____ > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily >Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 6:56 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [TruthTalk] Izzy's response > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 10:42 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Fwd: [TruthTalk] On occupying antithetical positions > > > >Can't take it any more. Ha Ha > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Please unsubscribe me until such time as Gary is no longer Moderator. >Thank >you. > > > > > >I awake this morning, contemplating whether Gary's incompetence as >Moderator >is simply due to possible chemically-induced brain damage or to a more >sinister malicious intent. Then I sit down at my computer and find in my >personal inbox the message above. Question answered. > > > >Yesterday, in an attempt to avoid rebelling against the authority imparted >to Gary (not GEORGE, Lance), I decided to simply step down quietly. Since >then it seems that Gary has backstepped enough to invite my comments, so I >will avail myself of the opportunity. > > > >When Gary requested the Moderator position I was cautiously optimistic that >he would surprise and dazzle us all with a more coherent and egalitarian >persona. I was hopeful that he would use his new position of power to >mediate an open and safe arena for the free exchange of ideas by using wise >restraint in gently reprimanding those who have overstepped the boundaries >of civility. Instead he quickly instituted an environment of intimidation >for those whose opinions he loathes. (The same mistake made less >maliciously >by Slade, I am sad to say.) Gary, while trying to pass himself as >"pastoral", gave himself away by his rush to judgment against me, and his >subsequent glee in forcing me out of TruthTalk. He has shown himself to >believe his new position is that of Chief of Censorship and Thought Police. > > > >In response to a statement I have made in the past, that street preachers >should beware of ignoring Jesus' caution against preaching to hardened >unbelievers for the sake of their own safety, Gary has shown himself to be >like the leftist judge in the "Philly 5" trial-mistaking the Word of the >Lord for "hate speech". I would have welcomed an inquiry to clarify my >position from anyone with such a misunderstanding. Instead Gary chose to >immediately condemn me as "irresponsible" and "thoughtless", as well as >"divorced" from "intense thinking", "authorship qualities required to post >it", and Jesus' "literary expertise in his carefully worded generic >manner." > > > > >Then Gary decreed my punishment for "very nasty feelings/responses" (His >own >I assume): > >1. revise my words >2. repost my revision "minus the backhanded ad hominem reference" >3. apologize to all affected parties >4. apologize to the Lord himself >5. apologize to the public >6. apologize to TruthTalk >7. apologize to the mormons >8. apologize to the street preachers "on whom the posted language >slops" >9. Do all of the above by the deadline of 6pm MST, 2/4/05 >10. Publicly refrain from deploying any NT language as a scathing false >public embarrassment of other TT'ers > > > >He then invites a public vote as to whether or not I actually committed an >ad hominem attack, all the while reminding everyone that the outcome will >definitely not relieve me of my punishment as written above. Then Gary's >devotees exhibited appropriate shock and outrage at my post. > > > >Gary, your eagerness to publicly humiliate and embarrass me on Truthtalk >has >only served to expose your motive as expressed by JD Smithson: "Actually, >I >call it "The Fall of the Final Four." The Inquistion has begun. I find >this environment impossible for the uninhibited, free exchange of ideas. I >invite you to either step down as Moderator or to make the apologies that >you have outlined above. Otherwise my resignation stands, and you can live >in a little box of men who all parrot the same dead language to each other. > > > > >Sincerely, Izzy > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
