BLAINE:  See comments below with **
  
Blaine wrote:
[LDS] are recruited by the FBI, the State Department and every police 
department in the country because they are trustworthy. 

Kevin wrote:
First off you changed what I was referring to. I was talking about old MEN 
MARRYING 14 YEAR OLDS in Utah. Why they do not change the law Why they do not 
do anything about the thousands of OLD PERVERTS in the State even in Downtown 
Salt lake. 

**Thousands? At best, only 49% of them could be Mormon, since Salt Lake County 
(includes Salt Lake City) is 51% Gentile.  Surely you are exagerating, however. 
 (As usual)

**The most current law on the books in Utah regarding marriabable age says age 
16--requires mom's permission, however.  

It is not about POLYGAMY. The older they get the younger they like thyem just 
like Joe must be some kind of PERVERT Spirit. 
http://www.polygamy.org/faq.shtml

I was also talking about why a LDS dominated society has so much crime suicide 
murder rape and other violence against women. With a population of up to 80% 
LDS this should not be so.

**Most of the crime takes place in Salt Lake City and Ogden--neither city is 
dominated by LDS, who are mostly rural population, small town folk.  Overall, 
the LDS population in Utah is more like 71%.  Salt Lake City is less than 40%, 
and Ogden, even less,  is heavily populated with Hispanic and white 
trash--rednecks, if you will.

Instead of an answer we get 
But we have the best Church Police force in the world!
If they are so great why can't they find all those pedophiles in your church 
BEFORE they do their harm?

**"All those pedophiles?"  I read the news daily, and can only recall a couple 
of recent vintage.  Of course, the liberal media always makes the most of any 
LDS-related persons involved.


Why can't they find the Murderous Prophets that come out of the Church such as 
the Lafferties, Brian David Mitchels and on and on....
Mark Hackings before they kill their wives

**Virtually all of these lunatic fringe guys are not only in the slammer, but 
have been excommunicated.  A few such cases are inevitable.  Even Jesus had his 
Judas.


Marriage is forever you know; is she stuck with mark forever, who will call her 
out of the grave?

**Mark Hacking will never see his wife again.  Killing her is tantamount to a 
clearcut divorce/cancellation of the sealing, in church eyes.  


We have not even scratched the surface even BYU has a PERVERT Football team!
 
Church Security personel are recruited by the Government because no other 
church has such a large TRAINED secret police force. Why such a well regulated 
MILITIA? In a Church? They look like secret service They use the tools of 
secret service They can identify any "ANTI" by name in 24 hours after they take 
your picture They track people around town away from the Temple They keep 
records and "research" on file about "ANTIS" They have a secret website with 
names, occupation, location of "ANTIS" for quick dissemination to others. How 
do they "learn" of private details of "ANTIS" that live thousands of miles 
away. What is the purpose of this "RESEARCH"? They act like secret police.

**Ha Ha!  This sounds paranoid, but OK, if what you say is true, then so what?  
They have the same legal right to do such as you preachers have the right to 
sound off in public..  you and your Free speech, right?   Whatsa matter?  You 
can dish it out, but you can't take it?  LOL
 
 They even keep these kind of records on their own people! 

**The church records are kept to keep track of members, so they can be 
contacted and encouraged to attend church.  EVERY CHURCH does the same!!  Name 
one that doesn't!!!

Why does a church need to Investigate it's members and foes alike? 

**Noone "investigate" members in the LDS Church!!  That is rediculous, as are 
many of your claims against the LDS community.  If a member is accused of 
serious sin on a ward or stake level, the accusations may be checked up on 
locally, but not by the CHURCH in general. This only happens if the person 
being accused asks for higher level involvement.  

Why does a CHURCH need such a large secret police force? What is with all the 
recording (Hidden Video & Audio) equipment? What is with the 15 foot wall all 
around the FORTRESS, I mean Temple?  Be careful that you do not become labeled 
a ANTI someday.

**Tch tch.  Poor Kevin!! 

Yes they FOLLOW directions. But do they know right from wrong?
Why did they assault a Peaceful Southern Baptist Reverand handing out 
literature on a PUBLIC SIDEWALK?

**LOL!
Only Church I know that has bouncers at the gates!
Look around this is CULTic behavior!

**We need bouncers!!  There are always a few guys rom the lunatic fringe trying 
to break things, burn things send viruses to the church computers, etc.  We 
need more than bouncers!!  Believe me!!


On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:28:23 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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The Violence against women  in this MALE LDS culture is very troubling!

"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[LDS] are recruited by the FBI, the State Department and every police 
department in the country because they are trustworthy.  

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