Re: [TruthTalk] over and out

Sat, 05 Feb 2005 14:27:37 -0800

Rather inane...

Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Jt:Close but, no cigar.
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On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 15:15:24 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jt:Thanks for making my point for me.
Oh, I see. You set me up to prove your point which is that noone actually knows for sure what anyone else is saying - and to
prove this you write an obtuse sentences with no ending?  This may be so out there in Babel but in the Kingdom of God we
speak Kingdom language and there is no doubt. Let God be true and every man a liar....
 
 
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 14:44:16 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jt:  By the way, no offence intended but, has anyone ever told you that your offspring are.........
My offspring are what Lance?  Why do you assume everyone knows what you mean all the time?
I have no idea what you are talking about.
Sorry you have decided to leave Debbie but I think I understand - What I don't understand however is in what way you perceive Bruce Cockburn to be Christian.  I didn't know who he was so I enquired at his website and found the following:
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Over the course of three decades, Bruce Cockburn's ability to distill political events, spiritual revelations and personal experience into rich, compelling songs have made him one of the world's most celebrated artists. And, as the title of his 27th studio album, You've Never Seen Everything, suggests, few musicians have been as curious, probing or provocative as Cockburn.

Written mostly over the last three years, the album's 12 songs reflect Cockburn's deepening frustration with a world out of balance. "We're confronted with great darkness as a species right now, as spiritual creatures on this planet," says Cockburn. "I don't think it's hopeless, and I don't want this album to make people feel hopeless. But I think we've got to call a spade a spade."

Songs like the tense opening "Tried and Tested," the hypnotic "All Our Dark Tomorrows" and, especially, the swirling jazz of "Trickle Down" represent some of Cockburn's angriest and most political songs since his "Call it Democracy" and "If I Had a Rocket Launcher" classics of the mid-1980s. "You look at war and environmental problems and you look at what's causing them and what's preventing us from solving them and the trail always leads to human greed," says Cockburn. "Somebody's getting paid to keep it that way or make it worse. Everyone's wondering what it all means and what we can do about it."

Cockburn's solution comes through in some of the most powerful songs of hope he's ever written: the joyous "Open," the euphoric "Put It in Your Heart" and the gorgeous closing "Messenger Wind." Says Cockburn: "What I see happening in the face of all this darkness is something new in human spirituality, openness, some sense of our common destiny. We've got to keep nudging ourselves in the direction of good and respect for each other."

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Nothing on this website suggested he is a follower of Christ and the above sounds more political than anything. Noone who sees God as sovereign and still on the throne is concerned about any of the above since the world has been "out of balance" since the fall and He is able to handle both environment and take care of human greed; I don't see "human spirituality" and Christianity as one and the same.  Do you?

 

 
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 13:15:10 -0500 "Debbie Sawczak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Well, folks, it has been genuinely fun "meeting" you all, but I don't really have time to continue my participation on TT, much as I would like to. The huge investment of time has not been without a return, but there are other things I need to give the time to! So I'm off. Thanks for the welcome and interaction; some of you have been very encouraging and mind-expanding. For those who remain on the list, here's a song by one of my favourite Christian artists, Bruce Cockburn:
 
When thoughts rush by
and your signals seem to fly
keep it open
keep it open
 
some will lag behind
but we needn't be unkind
keep it open
keep it open
and help me keep mine open too
 
sun stoned in the east
in our eyes let there be peace
keep it open
keep it open
and help me keep mine open too  
 
Debbie  
 
 
 

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