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Discernment.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: February 07, 2005 08:56
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Basis of
Unity
Really? How can you be certain one of us
did not MTP?
Hey (wo)man! We connected. Cool!
I do. But, you did indeed MTP. Jesus said: 'I
am the way, the truth and the life. No (person) comes to the Father but by
me.'
You may think I have
missed "your point" Lance but I have not missed that of God the Word who
became Jesus the man.
Jesus asked:'Who do (persons) say that I
am?' When one states:One Being, three persons', of whom (personal)
would we be speaking?
The Godhead or
God.
The question WHO always takes precedence over
WHAT when speaking of our Lord.
True - and this also applies to
the adversary - When confronting A&E after the fall God says
"WHO told you you are naked?"
When did you write your post about that which
is personal to David? And no I did not MTP - My point always
seems to be at odds with your point Lance - What makes you
think that your point is THE POINT!!! Engagement with other
ppl can be personal or it can be impersonal - and the nature of
Truth is objective rather than subjective. Since Truth is
the object of our discussion on TT personal disclosure is not
mandatory. I don't find DavidM detached or impersonal - His focus
here however, is not primarily on his every day personal life.
Terry and Izzy do share more of themselves in that way but they also
share other things. I find it strange that you zero in on this
aspect Lance since you share nothing of yourself with others (on TT
anyway) and very little about what you believe. The mandate
Jesus left to his followers is "continuing in His Word - this is when
we are His disciples and can know the truth which makes us free. An
individuals faith/unbelief is personal to them; the object of such
faith is what we discuss here. I understand why ppl put up walls
of protection that they hide behind and this is the rule rather than
the exception., sadly vulnerability is no longer a Christian trait; do
you get my point? jt
Jt:Please read my post to David on that
which is 'personal'.IMO, you once again MTP. True faith is PERSONAL,
is it not? True 'engagement' with one another is PERSONAL, is it not?
By the by, JESUS IS A PERSON, NOT A DETACHED IDEA' When speaking of/to
the 'fabulous four', it is yourself and David who speak in a detached
and impersonal way. This is not true of Izzy and Terry.
Lance, I see you making enquiries about
what constitutes an ad hominem remark, apparently
you can't distinguish because you
continue in it yourself and this is a perfect example
"When it comes to you"
personalizes this remark it so
that you are no longer dealing with ideas
or issues - you are taking a swipe at my
person - Also you never speak
for yourself - you claim
to represent the opinion of
"most" which IMO is a gross exaggeration.
So, of what value is this communication,
it does nothing other than try to tear down. jt
Jt: BECAUSE 'through' is the
operative word in your post. IMO, most have found this to be
impossible when it
comes to you. (The only
exception(s) would be the Mormons)
I love discussing ideas and
I enjoy reading or listening to the ideas of
others (that is why I am still on TT) --
but I hate debate. If there doesn't appear to be any
chance of resolve, I would rather disengage than ride a
disagreement into the gutter.
Thanks for your response
Bill,
But how do you know there will
never be any chance of resolve if you don't follow it
through?
I think this is one of the things
that drives a lot of women 'nuts' about their husbands.
They get into some kind of an
every day conflict - she wants
to talk it through and he puts up a wall.
So they are in a stalemate
with no resolution in
sight. What is so threatening about talking things
through??
Just wondering....
judyt
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