Here is some of the SHIFTING SAND of Mormonism
Apostle Packer There is a temptation for the writer or the teacher of Church history to want to tell everything, whether it is worthy or faith promoting or not. Some things that are true are not very useful.
Wilford Woodruff, Mormon president, prophet and seer, said in 1869. that "God sent A flying Angel"
In Joseph Smiths own handwriting in 1831, he said "I was 16 and God sent A ministering Angel" .
Heber Kimble, President, prophet and seer said in 1857 that, "God sent ONLY Peter to J S."
Joseph Smith said, "I ONLY saw Jesus".
Joseph Smith, later said "I saw two personages. he never said who they were.
Apostle Orson Hyde said in 1854, "God sent AN Angel to Joseph Smith".
John Taylor, president, prophet and seer said, in 1863, "God sent AN Angel to Joseph Smith."
Finally Brigham Young president, prophet and seer said (approx. 10 years after Joseph died in 1844 that) "Joseph Smith saw God the Father AND Jesus Christ in 1827".
Joseph Smith originally said, "it was the Angel NEPHI
In Joseph Smiths own handwriting in 1831, he said "I was 16 and God sent A ministering Angel" .
Heber Kimble, President, prophet and seer said in 1857 that, "God sent ONLY Peter to J S."
Joseph Smith said, "I ONLY saw Jesus".
Joseph Smith, later said "I saw two personages. he never said who they were.
Apostle Orson Hyde said in 1854, "God sent AN Angel to Joseph Smith".
John Taylor, president, prophet and seer said, in 1863, "God sent AN Angel to Joseph Smith."
Finally Brigham Young president, prophet and seer said (approx. 10 years after Joseph died in 1844 that) "Joseph Smith saw God the Father AND Jesus Christ in 1827".
Joseph Smith originally said, "it was the Angel NEPHI
ON TRUTH EVIDENCE & FACTS
Apostle Oaks "My duty as a member of the Council of the Twelve is to protect what is most unique about the LDS church, namely the authority of priesthood, testimony regarding the restoration of the gospel, and the divine mission of the Savior. Everything else may be sacrificed in order to maintain the integrity of those essential facts. Thus, if Mormon Enigma reveals information that is detrimental to the reputation of Joseph Smith, then it is necessary to try to limit its influence and that of its authors." Introduction p. xliii f28 in Inside the Mind of Joseph Smith: Psychobiography and the Book of Mormon
"I have a hard time with historians because they idolize the truth. The truth is not uplifting; it destroys. I could tell most of the secretaries in the church office building that they are ugly and fat. That would be the truth, but it would hurt and destroy them. Historians should tell only that part of the truth that is inspiring and uplifting." Packer Apostle
David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Blaine wrote:
> ... where does it say he was baptized, or
> even wanted to be? Sounds like he was
> just a member of a class, and wanted to
> attend, for unknown reasons, and they got
> downright mean and ornery with him--
You are confusing two different situations. Joseph Smith's father tells of
Joseph being baptized in the Baptist church several years prior to this
incident with the Methodist church in Harmony. If you want to read a more
thorough account of the history, read Perusuitte's book that I referenced
previously. He gives many good reasons to question whether the supposed
vision of Joseph Smith in 1820 was fabricated later. The question is, why
would a man who had a vision from God in 1820 not to join with any of the
existing churches be found joining with them and even being baptized by
them? It seems that a more likely explanation is that he either fabricated
the whole story about the vision later, or he got his dates all mixed up
about when he received the vision. I suppose it also is possible that he
was simply a man of poor character and did not do what God told him for more
than a decade, but then one would wonder why God would choose such a man to
establish his true church.
Blaine, if God appeared to you and told you not to have anything to do with
the Mormon church, would you obey that vision immediately, or would you
continue with it for more than a decade before you wrote a book telling
others that God told you to leave your church?
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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