Re: [TruthTalk] Original Sin

[Bill Taylor]

John wrote  >  If "sanctify" is more than "to set apart,"  what are the additional nuances?    Hi John,   The distinction I am drawing is not at all adverse to the idea that sanctify means to set apart. What I am saying is that sanctification, if it is truly going to sanctify us, has to be internal to us and not external only. In other words, it is not enough to be "sanctified" if that only means you are going to remove yourself from exposure to sin and the evil elements of the world; and this is because the sin problem is internal to you and all of us, before it becomes externalized in our behavioral acts. If what Jesus meant when he said he sanctifies himself was only that he was being an example that his disciples might see and emulate, then we -- his disciples -- are still in our sins and cannot help but fail to follow the example. But if when he said this, he was speaking to an internal sanctification on his part, then he meant that he was actually defeating the proclivities that produce evil within humanity, in order that his disciples might then be able to be sanctified as well. I am arguing that that is exactly what he did mean and that he did this throughout his life -- which was a true sanctification of the human nature; in other words, there is genuine holiness in this.   Once the tyrants were defeated in Christ, and he was resurrected in new humanity, and he sent his Spirit to indwell us, well, that is Christ in us, the hope of Glory! That is when we, his disciples, truly can be sanctified by the Word of God. We are now internally equipped to follow his external example, because in him -- and for us, and thus in us as well -- the internal volitions were defeated and a new humanity resides in place of the old. Hallelujah!    Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Original Sin In a message dated 2/12/2005 11:39:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for the answer, David. Why do you think Jesus did not say, "And for their sakes I give them the example of myself, that they also may be sanctified by truth"? He said that sort of thing at other times, but not here. Instead he said, "And for their sakes I SANCTIFY Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth." I agree with what you say pertaining to the word of truth being the sanctifying agent (along with the Holy Spirit of course) as far as we are concerned. But why in Jesus' case must it be any different? It was in and through the sanctification of his own humanity via these things that he defeated sin, death, and the devil, -- in other words, he is much more than an example to us -- and this in order that we might now be in a position of being able to be sanctified by the Truth through the work of the Spirit in our lives. Do you understand the distinction I am drawing and what I mean when I make it? Tell me what you think of it.   Bill If "sanctify" is more than "to set apart,"  what are the additional nuances?  JD