Yeah, I'm not too comfortable with that explanation either. But what about yours? You are picking up on why I asked Terry if he was a KJV man. Does the Bible contain the status of personhood -- in other words a "He" and not an "It"?
 
Bill
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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormons and Street Preachers

Read the next verse

Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

Here is a good example of a Sodomite twisting the scriptures

http://www.truluck.com/html/jesus_and_the_bible.html

JESUS LIBERATES US FROM BIBLE ABUSE!

Jesus sets us free from the idolatrous use of the Bible to hurt ourselves and others.  Only God is absolute.  God in Christ is "The word of God made human (flesh)" (not words) in John 1:14.  The Bible never calls itself the word of God.  The Bible calls Jesus the word of God and the one who sets people free from sick abusive use of scripture to hurt people.  Be free!  Follow Jesus as your guide to all things.  Let the Spirit of Jesus guide you into a healthy use of the Bible for spiritual recovery from Bible abuse and from sick and oppressive religion.

Jesus accepted and included all people.  To use the Bible as a weapon to judge, condemn and exclude people is to abandon the Spirit and the example of Jesus.



Bill Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

By the way folks, I am interested: How many of you think the following verse is in reference to the Bible and how many think it is speaking about Jesus Christ?  Heb 4:12 �For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and  able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart.� 
 
Please be specific; i.e., include your arguments for one or the other.
 
Bill 
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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormons and Street Preachers

Izzy clarifies  >  I didn�t say anything about ignorance. 

 

Oh really? Hmmm. "John, you seem to ignore the fact that ..."
 
Perhaps not in so many words, you didn't. But then who's counting? I assumed that to ignore facts is to be ignorant. Of course you only missed my point.
 
Bill :>)
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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:51 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormons and Street Preachers

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Taylor
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormons and Street Preachers

 

"I become all things to all men, that by all means I might save some." No ignorance there.

 

Bill

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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 7:04 AM

Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormons and Street Preachers

 

Heb 4:12 �For the word of God is [Acts 7:38] living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and  able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart.�  John, you seem to ignore the fact that it is God�s Word that does the piercing�not the messenger or the vehicle by which it is delivered.  It is the Word, the Word, the Word thru which the Holy Spirit convicts and saves.  Even in the mouth of a street preacher with a bullhorn, on a license plate, or in graffiti on the subway walls.  Izzy

 

 


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