Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Patristic: God's acts in His being
Reformation: God's being in His acts
 
Nice little word play there Lance - I know the "liberal triad" are all taken up with the "patristic bent" and those of us who are not of their peculiar persuasion are card filed as having an enlightenment mindset along with the "reformers" - However, God's concern is that we "learn His ways" - were/is anyone concerned about this?  judyt
JD said AMEN TO THAT   and only Lance will fully understand by revival type attitude on that!  JD
 
Thanks for the Secret CODE WORD ALERT! That was exactly my point in an earlier post about Barfh Here we have "case in point".
The Mystical subversive "word play" is like all the initiation cults, Shriners, LDS, Divine Love. Where there actually can be two tottally different conversations taking place and only the "ENLIGHTENED" & "INITIATED" one understanding. Watch out for the hidden meanings wheteher they are NEO's or Mormons!
 
EARLIER POST: As only a "Protestant" can know it Some good reading on the rantings of Neo's
Barth was a master of putting newe ("MODERNE") Heretical meanings into traditional language
 
http://www.datarat.net/DR/Lex-B.html
Barth, Karl(1888-1968) Neo-Orthodox theologian and heretic.
Barth used traditional religious terminology to describe his heretical
doctrines (much like modern Mormons).  Underlying this, however,
are concepts like the utter transcendence of God, the Bible as less
than the voice of the Lord (i.e., God cannot be contained in human
language), acceptance of Natural Evolution over the Genesis Creation
Account, the so-called 'Higher Criticism' with it's denial of the historicity
of Scripture, subscription to Universal Atonement and Universal Salvation,
belief that God would need to correct His decrees, denial of the
impassibility of God, etc.

Strikingly similar to contemporary Post Modernism, Barth viewed
paradox and uncertainty as theological virtues, esteemed doctrinal
contradiction, and conceived of God & Truth as largely unknowable !
( Explaining why much of what Barth wrote is pseudo-intellectual
convoluted gibberish. )

While claiming to be against theological liberalism, Karl Barth had been
heavily involved in Socialist politics in his native Switzerland.Which
political philosophy he later recanted but is widely believed to have
influenced his theology.

Like Schleiermacher before him, Barth is declared by his proponents
to be the "Father of Modern Protestantism".Similar to Schleiermacher,
though, he can be best described as a corrupter of modern protestantism.

http://www.godspointofview.com/public/articles/aboutbarth.html

It would be impossible to encapsulate the theology of Barth in any adequate way. I would, in broad terms, characterize the theology of Karl Barth as part Eastern Mysticism, part Hinduism, part Greek Gnosticism, part Platonism, part Aristotalanism and part Druidism. Was it also part Christian and part Judaism?

But no one deserves to take an undue portion of the blame for Barth�s mad rantings. He and he alone is guilty of inventing things that had never been known or taught before in heaven or in earth. One is tempted to add �under the earth,� but I will not, because that is possibly the very place from whence Barth fetched them.

Thinking Like a Protestant in the Humanistic, Evangelical Wilderness
http://www.forerunner.com/puritan/PS.Reformed.html

Karl Barth alarmed at Nietzsche like liberalism with its resultant tyranny, felt compelled along with other 20th century theologians to reinvent orthodoxy (deemed neo-orthodoxy or new orthodoxy). Unfortunately, Barth and his colleagues borrowed heavily on the heretical presuppositions of their more militant liberal brothers, in that they rejected confessional creedal orthodoxy (like Nietzsche convinced such notions were outmoded). Additionally, the neo-orthodox roundly reject the inspiration, infallibility and immutable authority of the Scriptures, derogatorily calling it "the paper pope." Thus, while holding selected moral lessons of traditional Christianity, the neo-orthodox are essentially unitarian-universalists. Notwithstanding, because they have remolded God into man's image, they remain blaspheming heretics perhaps more dangerous than their frothing liberal counterparts in that neo-orthodox tyranny is kinder and gentler replete with a beguiling smile.

The neo-orthodox have had a profound and deleterious effect on evangelicals, effectively eroding their ability and will to resist humanistic thought.When you combine the effects of Hegalian statism, Nietzsche like elitism, Darwinian dehumanization and Barth's anesthetizing universalism, you have a full orbed comprehensive world-life-view which like the builders of the tower of Babel are seeking to dethrone God and establish man as sovereign. It should also be plain and painfully clear that evangelicalism is not only unable to cope with this challenge, but for all intents and purposes has already been neutralized by adopting some if not all of humanism's presuppositions.


Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Patristic: God's acts in His being
Reformation: God's being in His acts
 
Nice little word play there Lance - I know the "liberal triad" are all taken up with the "patristic bent" and those of us who are not of their peculiar persuasion are card filed as having an enlightenment mindset along with the "reformers" - However, God's concern is that we "learn His ways" - were/is anyone concerned about this?  judyt
 
 
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:48:22 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 2/22/2005 8:36:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Karl Barth was probably the most important theologian since Athanasius. He was to theology what Einstein was to science. He brought together the patristic emphasis of God's acts in His being with the reformation emphasis of God's being in His acts. His view of Scripture was similar to that of Jesus.

 
KD: Anyone critiquing Barth, before Wednesday anyway, hasn't read him, Kevin.


AMEN TO THAT   and only Lance will fully understand by revival type attitude on that!  JD
 
 


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