RE: [TruthTalk] Albert Einstein & Karl Barth

Sun, 27 Feb 2005 02:26:14 -0800

Give Andy our hearty congratulations and admiration, Izzy

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Taylor
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 10:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Albert Einstein & Karl Barth

 

Andy has only lost six matches in the last three years (since he's been in middle school). Three of them have been to the same kid, a very solid wrestler from Elizabeth, a big school close to Denver. He wrestled him last Tuesday and got beat pretty soundly, placing second in that tournament. The outcome was the same today, a second place finish, but Andy wrestled a much better match. In a tournament represented by twenty two schools, it came down once again to Taylor and McVicker. The good news is they will never have to meet up in regionals or at state, since we are a 2A school (about 200 kids in the entire district) and Elizabeth is a 4A school this year and is going to 5A next year, the highest classification in the State. I don't know if Andy could ever beat him -- right now it doesn't look likely -- but I do know this: he is making Andy a better wrestler. Andy's record this year, after today, is 17 wins and 2 losses.

 

Other than we hate to lose, it was a really good day. Our oldest son, Tyler, a junior in college, came to the tournament and worked with Andy all day long, showing him things to improve upon, and teaching him some stuff he had never learned before. Tyler is enough older than Andy that Andy really looks up to him and tries very hard to please him.

 

Well, enough of that.

 

Three more tournaments next week. Go Andy!

 

Bill

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Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:49 AM

Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Albert Einstein & Karl Barth

 

Here’s hoping Andy wipes ‘em up!

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Taylor
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 7:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Albert Einstein & Karl Barth

 

jt: To Karl Barth that is....  If "Jesus loves me this I know for the Bible tells me so" is Barth's most profound statement then we are wasting our time studying him.

 

I see you are still up to your old tactics, Judy. No one said that the above was Barth's "most profound statement." 

 

Why not go straight to the source?  jt

 

You mean like he did? Or perhaps I should ask you the same question I asked, Izzy. Do you know that Jesus loves you? I mean, I think he does, but do you have any basis for thinking the same?

 

I'll talk to you later; I'm off to a wrestling tournament. Go Andy!

 

Bill

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Judy Taylor

Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:01 AM

Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Albert Einstein & Karl Barth

 

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 04:32:02 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In a message dated 2/26/2005 1:28:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Barth, while dealing with the problem of the fall of man, near the beginning of his essay (this is not a Mexican greeting  -  essay Mon !?)  has t his to say: 

We will begin by stating that in all that we have to say at this point we cannot and must not deviate at any cost from the revelation or Word of God.    (Barth, Church Dogmatics, vi.1,  p478). 

Spoken like a true believer.  

His critics might try gving him a read before doing the work of the Father in judgment. 

jt: So far as I can tell noone is judging Barth the man.  As believers we have a responsibility to evaluate or "judge" if you like the things he

taught and wrote as the representative of God.


Also,    "The fall of man.  The term corresponds exactly to what we have learned to know as the essence of sin  -- 

the pride of man."

 

jt: I don't think so - there was no pride in the first Adam and his wife before they agreed in their hearts with the word of the adversary and began to be conformed to his image.

And the "Word of God" has this meaning to Barth  --   " ..........   by the Word and judgment of God we do not mean  a revealed theory of supernatural origin and content about man, but the address and claim of God concretely attested to [man]."    And, so, the "Word of God" has no single definition except the above.   The "word" is scripture, Jesus, that which is spoken by a true prophet of God,  that which is revealed through counsel, the still small voice,   a circumstance that cannot be misunderstood and the like.  

 

jt: To Karl Barth that is....  If "Jesus loves me this I know for the Bible tells me so" is Barth's most profound statement then we are

wasting our time studying him.  Why not go straight to the source?  jt

 

 

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