BLAINE: Stop and think, Kevin, exactly what does the Hoffman affair really mean?
TEMPLE RECOMMEND Mark Hofmann was at one time a missionary for the Church. According to the Church Section of the Deseret News, Oct. 20, 1985, "Hofmann... served in the England Southwest Mission, 1974-76." On February 4, 1986, the same newspaper said that on "one mission report of average proselyting hours, Hofmann's name ranks 49th out of 208 missionaries. Part of the time, Hofmann served in the mission office in Bristol." Utah Holiday, Jan. 1986, p. 53, reported that Hofmann married "in the Salt Lake LDS temple." In an interview published in Sunstone Review, Sept. 1982, p. 19, Mr. Hofmann described himself as "an eighth-generation Mormon, and my mother is a stake Relief Society president right now." Some of Hofmann's closest associates (Lyn Jacobs, Shannon Flynn and Brent Metcalfe) were returned Mormon missionaries.
SECRET ACTIVITIES
The fact that people had to seek out an Apostle to know what to tell the police certainly reveals that there were secret activities going on.
"...just before 3 p.m., Mark Hofmann came to the Church Administration Building and asked for Elder Pinnock, who was out at that time....Hofmann came to my office and said he thought the police would question him. What should he say when they questioned him? And I said, 'You should simply tell them the truth. You don't have any reason to believe that this bombing has anything to do with you, do you? And simply tell them the truth.' And then, when he seemed to be questioning whether we should tell them about the McLellin collection, I said, 'Look. That's been handled on a confidential basis, but there's a murder investigation under way. You should tell the police everything you know and answer every question�and I intend to do the same.'...
"...just before 3 p.m., Mark Hofmann came to the Church Administration Building and asked for Elder Pinnock, who was out at that time....Hofmann came to my office and said he thought the police would question him. What should he say when they questioned him? And I said, 'You should simply tell them the truth. You don't have any reason to believe that this bombing has anything to do with you, do you? And simply tell them the truth.' And then, when he seemed to be questioning whether we should tell them about the McLellin collection, I said, 'Look. That's been handled on a confidential basis, but there's a murder investigation under way. You should tell the police everything you know and answer every question�and I intend to do the same.'...
"On Thursday, the following day, Shannon Flynn came to the Church Administration Building...I met with Flynn...In brief, Flynn wanted to know what he should say if he was questioned, and I told him to tell the truth, just as I had told Hofmann.
"On Friday, Alvin Rust came to the Church Office Building....He said, 'I know some things. I've already talked to the police, but I know some more things.' And I said, 'Whatever you haven't told the police, tell them. Give them everything (Salt Lake Tribune, October 27, 1985)
"40 SOME"
Previous to this time the fact that the Church had some documents was secret. Then at a press conference:
Hinckley "Since that time, Mr. Hofmann has sold various documents to the church....The church has acquired by purchase, donation, or trade 40-some documents, some of relatively little importance, and some of significance." (Salt Lake Tribune, Oct. 27, 1985)
Los Angeles Times, Nov. 8, 1985, claimed that 'most' of these documents have not been made public.
300
Deseret News, April 12, 1986 "Approximately 300 century-old court records donated to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in 1983 by Mark W. Hofmann have been returned to an Illinois court�the place of the documents' origin, a church spokesman announced Friday.
"In addition, 45 other court records received from Hofmann in 1983 were discovered during the inventory. These records, which date from 1839 to 1882, will be offered to public officials in Illinois, Missouri, Utah and Wisconsin.
400 & CLIMBING
Salt Lake Tribune April 12, 1986 "Mormon officials have released descriptions of almost 400 documents and court records they received as a gift, traded or bought"
Since the Church has already revised the number of Hofmann documents it acquired from "40-some" to 300 to almost 400, I wonder if there could be even more?
Not only did the church Give Hofman money they also traded away genuine documents for the frauds. At a press conference, President Hinckley said that the "Historical Department later traded him other documents of interest for the 'Anthon Manuscript.' " (Salt Lake Tribune, Oct. 27, 1985) Hinckley also said that the Joseph Smith III Blessing "was acquired from Mr. Hofmann with a trade of historic materials..." (Ibid.)
MILLION DOLLAR DOC's
Salt Lake Tribune, April 19, 1986 "Convoluted deals involving the attempted sale of million-dollar documents, the manufacturing of plates to counterfeit 'Mormon money' and the seemingly blind trust of LDS officials in bombing suspect Mark W. Hofmann dominated the fifth day of his preliminary bearing Friday.... It also was apparent that church leaders, including President Hinckley, trusted Mr. Hofmann implicitly, to the point where negotiations over the price the church was willing to pay for Hofmann documents reached the offices of the first presidency."
Los Angeles Times on Nov. 8, 1985 "The immediate shock and fear was replaced with a sense of wonder about the church's admitted involvement in the transactions, and anticipation of where investigation might lead next. Many people here believe the case could cause the church substantial embarrassment, especially when it comes time to call certain people to the witness stand."
That would be very embarassing. Hofman was deeply in debt & his lawyer fees could have easily amounted to a million dollars. His Attorneys announced a public defense fund shortly thereafter they announced the funds had become available to them. Could the Church have funded Mr Hofman again in order to influence the atty's to not demand public disclosure of the doc's and the deposing of witnesses such as Hinckley?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BLAINE: Stop and think, Kevin, exactly what does the Hoffman affair
really mean? It means some money-mongering little jerk decided to go to
GREAT legnths to rip off others--money was his only objective. He
counted money as a measure of his success in life. Some value system,
huh? Yet you seem more than happy to point to his doings with pride,
glad you found him and his dirty dealing the LDS Church and ripping off
the hard-earned dollars of faithful members. You are gloating, Kevin,
right? Gloating over a mean-spirited act perpetrated by a spineless lazy
butt-head who didn't want to work for a living, so he went for the easy
money angle. He really wasn't lazy, however, he just apparently didn't
like to work--reminds me of some guys I know who spend their time down by
temple square--a bunch of fun-junkies who are hooked on spewing . . .
poisonous . . . but definitely not working for a living.
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:46:40 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes:
> BLAINE: Sounds like a certain Kevin fellow I know. :)
>
> Right just like the False accusations of misrepresentaion, you
> accused me of with the Hoffman murder affair
> They only bought one or two doc's right?
> Now all we get is SILENCE on the issue. The FACT is you were
> woefully unaware of your own churches history of but a few years
> ago.
> Your Prophet has not a clue as to the character of the man or his
> forgeries. The current "prophet" bought a number of forged doc's
> from him.
> He is moraly complicit in the death of two of his "faithful"
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> BLAINE: Sounds like a certain Kevin fellow I know. :)
>
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 09:07:23 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > In a message dated 2/27/2005 4:43:35 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > >
> > > More &More like a Mormon
> > >
> > > The wrong page number does not nullify the statement of this
> > MICREANT!
> > > Deal with the subject
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Don't be a moron. Giving a phony page number prevents criticism.
> > You
> > want me to critic your "quotes?" Fine ----------- but don't
> > ask me to
> > trust you. My complaint sis that that the author of your quotes,
> > certainly not
> > you, has taken the comments out of context and now, you chide me
> > for asking
> > the location of that context.
> >
> > JD
>
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