RE: [TruthTalk] Narrow way not " loving"?

Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:26:33 -0800

While you are at it LANCE, explain these also.
Are you saying God will not judge anyone for their sin? Are you a universalist?
 
JUDGEMENT
PS 9:8 And he shall judge the world in righteousness, he shall minister judgment to the people in uprightness.
PS 110:6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies
EZ 24:14 I the LORD have spoken it: it shall come to pass, and I will do it; I will not go back, neither will I spare, neither will I repent; according to thy ways, and according to thy doings, shall they judge thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Rom 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
James 4:12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy
1 Pt 1:17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
 
CONDEMNATION
RM 8:3 God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh
Titus 3:11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.
2 PT 2:6  And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly
JN 3:18 he that believeth not is condemned already
 
DEATH SENTENCE
2 Co 1:9 But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead


Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yes please explain this scripture to us!

ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Then why don’t you interpret this scripture for us so that we might understand your thinking, Lance? Izzy

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 5:49 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow way not " loving"?

 

IFF Dave and I (and many others) have a 'more correct' understanding of this issue than yourself (and many, many, many......others) then you are misreading Jesus.

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Sent: March 14, 2005 05:07

Subject: [TruthTalk] Narrow way not " loving"?

 

DaveH and Lance, You are arguing with Jesus, not DM, Jt, Kevin and Izzy.  You condemn us for believing Jesus.  Why is this? To say the we are eager for damnation of anyone who does not agree with our particular theology is a slur (as usual.)  Nothing new on TT, I see.  Back to my cat hideout! Izzy

 

 Matt 7: 13"(K)Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.  
   14"For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 3:06 AM
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Dave Hansen speaks of Protestantism's excessive (my word) view of hell and damnation. I'm with you on this, Dave. I'd NOT align myself with the views I've seen expressed, in this regard, by DM, Jt, Kevin and, Izzy. The word 'eager' may not be strong enough.

 

I was thinking of beliefs which 'control' our knowledge of almost anything. The changing of those beliefs carry with them such immense personal and social consequences that we often fear even to entertain the possibility that they are wrongly founded.

 

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From: Dave Hansen

Sent: March 14, 2005 01:21

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Lance Muir wrote:

With a vengeance?

DAVEH:  Yes Lance, I meant that in the sense they will soon be flooding my inbox with more than I am capable of assimilating.  I did not intend to suggest their posts would be vengeful.

I think not. More likely praising God for the richness of the time they spent at a conference. I'll not steal any of their thunder.

 

Tell me, Dave, were it to be the case that you are, in reality, quite wrong as to your understanding of God and His Gospel, what do you believe the consequences would be? (eternally).

DAVEH:  If I am wrong in my beliefs, then would not my perception of my consequences also be in question?

    I think one of the biggest problems (if that is the proper word to use) I have with Protestantism is their view of hell and damnation.  I've said it before, but for some of you who are a bit new to TT, I'll give you a brief explanation.  It seems to me that Protestants are far too eager to toss those who don't agree with their perspective of religion on the ash heap of hell, so to speak.  Or rather, they seem to pleasure in the thought that God will forever punitively torture those who fail to walk that narrow path and enter the strait gate.  I just don't feel comfortable believing in a God who relishes torture, Lance.  I prefer to believe God is loving, merciful and would that all his creation benefit from their existence.

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