Five year olds are not the best things upon which to base one's theology. Izzy
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 10:49 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow way not " loving"? Martin Buber, in a conversation with TFTorrance some time ago, said 'I've not listened to anyone over five years of age for thirty years". (He is the author if 'I and Thou') ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> Sent: March 18, 2005 10:57 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow way not " loving"? > Bill Taylor wrote: > > The point of Jesus' statement had to do with the > > unwillingness of the religious establishment to repent > > and accept his teaching as truth. They were steadfast > > in their error, yet convinced they were right and needed > > no correction. That problem is still with us today. > > I agree, Bill, but I'm not sure we have the same people in mind in regards > to the "religious establishment." I consider the religious establishment to > be guys like N.T. Wright and T.F. Torrance, and perhaps their ardent > disciples. We agree that the problem is still here with us, but we probably > disagree about who is teachable and who is not. I consider myself to be > very teachable, and so do most people who know me. However, the older I > get, the more informed opinions I have, and the expression of opinions is > often deemed to be unlike a child. In fact, many consider any form of > teaching whatsoever to be reflective of an unteachable person. Although I > do teach from time to time, my heart is still very much like a child in > regards to the Lord and following him. > > Bill Taylor wrote: > > If that is "cause and effect" then I'm with you. > > Actually, I was talking about the relationship between those who do not > appreciate the use of Scripture to correct and instruct one another (e.g., > Lance), and the disbelief of those same people that a man of God may be > perfect. I was talking about "cause and effect" in regards to the 2 Tim. > 3:16-17 passage teaching that the Scriptures being used for doctrine, > reproof, correction, and instruction in righteousness (the cause) results in > the effect of a man of God being perfect, throughly furnished unto all good > works. > > 2 Timothy 3:16-17 > (16) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for > doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: > (17) That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good > works. > > Do you believe this pasage of Scripture, Bill, or would you argue that we > should not take this passage literally, or that we need to think in > non-linear terms about it, or that we can only understand it if we shake off > the effects of the enlightenment project that are upon our thinking > processes? Does my reductionistic approach to understanding this passage > offend you? > > Peace be with you. > David Miller. > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
