Blaine,

I have repeatedly posted my justification for the things I beleive to be true regarding the Mormons. I have also repeatedly described in detail why the Mormon jesus and mormon god cannot be the same Jesus and God that are in the Bible. I have demonstrated the cultic nature of the Mormon temple ceremonies, and its obvious tie to freemasonry, another cult. And, in a recent post, I asked you to enumerate the prophecies of JS and how they have come true, which you dodged by saying I asked too many questions. So, perhaps it is you that are ignoring them! I think the burden of demonstrating that his prophecies came true is on you...you are the one stating that his prophecies "obviously are either fulfilled or in process of being fulfilled". If it so so obvious, send them in! I also have listed two of JS' prophecies in a recent post that I know have not come true...and their time for fulfilment has passed. TWO! It only takes one to make him a false prophet. The other 50 or so false prophecies are insurance. You dodged that, too.

How can you say I give no justification or reasons? Are you asleep? Do you not read my posts? Have short term memory loss? It is certainly not because I have not justified my postion, and on several occasions.

Please check the TT archives and get back to me on that, okay?

Perry

From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Hell = Physical Torture?
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:06:14 GMT




-- "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Your mind has been polluted by the heretical LDS
works. If you relied on his Word you would clearly see that your impressions
of God are all wrong.


BLAINE: I keep noticing that you do a lot of labeling, usually in reference to LDS stuff, Perry. Yet I seldom if ever read any solid reasoning or evidence to support your assertions. You just seem to rely on what you have read, usually some crackpot stuff that is, like your own writing, designed to ridicule, label, etc., and which seems to be rooted in a set of commonly agreed upon assumptions that themselves have never been too well defined--just asserted to be true. For instance:
1. You assume/assert the BoM to be fiction, but have never proven your case. Neither has anyone else, for that matter.
2. You assert/assume that the LDS Church is a cult, but again this has not been well enough defined to be shown to be true beyond reasonable doubt.
3. You assert/assume Joseph Smith was a false prophet, yet ignore his many revelations, prophecies, etc. that obviously are either fulfilled or in process of being fulfilled.
4. You assert/assume the Mormon concept of Jesus Christ to represent a "different" Jesus, yet seem to shy away from actually delineating why this is being assumed.
I suppose I could go on, but for the sake of limiting discussion, will stop, waiting for your reply. I probably will not go to sites with anti-Mormon literature, which you often refer me to. I feel if the concepts are all that clear, you should be able to just jot them down succinctly in Perry-digested form. :)


>From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>    So Perry.....getting back to God....do you really think a Perfect
>Parent would want to eternally torture their wayward children?  To
>me...../that /is illogical.
>

No. As I said before, God would like for NONE of us to perish...you
intentionally cast God in a bad light, even though you have been told
otherwise many times before, you just do not want to accept it. You have to
make God out to be an ogre through the eyes of your "protestants" so your
mormon god seems bigger. It seems illogical to you because you use
extra-biblical and non-biblical references to try to define God instead of
relying solely on his Word. Your mind has been polluted by the heretical LDS
works. If you relied on his Word you would clearly see that your impressions
of God are all wrong.


Perry


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