Sent: March 20, 2005 13:42
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] God's Hate and
God's Wrath
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 07:27:35 -0600 "Caroline Wong" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dear Kevin;Thank you for your post on Strong's Hebrew
definitions of the word ra. Of the possible English choices the KJV translator
had when translating Isaiah 45:7, he picked the wrong one. To say that God creates evil is to go
against what the bible teaches about God and it blasphemes God.
jt: Caroline if you are going to
correct Isaiah 45:7 then you will need to correct a lot of the other Prophets
& Patriarchs also for eg:
Job - "thou speakest as one of the
foolish women. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God and shall we not
receive evil? Job 2:10
Job - "his brethren, sisters &
aquaintances bemoaned him and comforted him over all the evil
that the Lord had brought upon him Job 42:11
Moses - "behold I set before you
this day a blessing and a curse" Deuteronomy 11:26 (the curse is
evil)
Moses - "See I have set before
thee this day life and good, and death and evil"
Deuteronomy 30:15
Amos - "thence will I command the
sword, and it shall slay them; and I will set mine eyes upon them
for evil, and not for good" Amos 9:4b
Jeremiah - "Therefore thus saith
the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold I will set my face against you
for evil, and to cut off all Judah" Jer
44:11
Jonah - "God saw their works that
they turned from their evil way and God repented of the
evil that he had said that he would do unto them and he did it
not" Jonah 3:10.
This is what God's hate is like:
When I contemplate evil, nurse a grudge or dwell
in anger, He is not there. His presence is gone.
jt: I don't think so Caroline. A
born again believer has the Spirit of God indwelling and He does not
leave the first time they contemplate that stuff. The Lord knows it was a
way of life for many years and He is patient. However, if it
resumes as a way of life again after conversion - the status
quo may change.
This is because hate is the opposite of God's
being and when God hates, He is not there.
jt: Of course He is still there and
there are a lot of things God hates. This is why "the fear of the Lord is
to hate evil" Proverbs 8:13
Here are seven that he finds an
abomination (along with the abominations of the pagan nations
surrounding Israel, the ones that he drove out disinherited and had killed)
for starters:
1. He hates a proud
look
2. A lying tongue
3. Hands that shed innocent
blood
4. A heart that devises wicked
imaginations
5. Feet that are swift in running
to mischief
6. A false witness that speaks
lies
7. He that sows discord among
brethren
The problem is that I may end up entertaining
another presence, another person.
jt: Like another gospel along with
a different spirit?
David recognized this risk when he sinned with
Bathsheba and got found out. He saw what happened to Saul when the Spirit left
him. "Take not your Holy Spirit from me," he prayed (and taught Israel to
pray.)
jt: Israel couldn't pray the above
prayer Caroline. The Promise was not been sent (for the people)
until Pentecost. David had an anointing under the Old Covenant because he was
chosen to be Prophet and King.
Man's hate and man's wrath seek to destroy and
depersonalize the another person. It's a mistake to think of God's hate and
wrath in the same way. We hate according to who we are. Some people take out
baseball bats and get violent; some stew and mutter curses. God, who is love,
absents himself.
jt: Don't think so Carolyn; we
should always remember that we do not war against flesh and blood. We
war against wicked spirits in the heavenlies who inhabit flesh and blood and
God empowers us to win the battle. The sad part is that most of the
Church is not in it.
Grace and Peace,
Judyt
