Wow! And here I was thinking that watching an episode of Carnivale might bring me down.
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] HATE Theology from some dead guys & LEFTist Evangel's

Psalm 139:19-22 Oh, that You would slay the wicked, O God! Do I not hate them, O Lord, who hate You? And do I not loathe those who rise up against You? I hate them with perfect hatred; I count them my enemies.

God hates the sinner and not just the sin.  He plans to destroy liars, and every unrepentant liar should tremble at such a statement. It is only at the cross that God hates the sin and loves the sinner.  It is only IN Christ that we find sinners not thrown into the lake of fire. Romans 5:8-9

CH Spurgeon Treasury of David "But the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth:" why, then, shall I flee from these wicked men? If God hateth them, I will not fear them. Haman was very great in the palace until he lost favour, but when the king abhorred him, how bold were the meanest attendants to suggest the gallows for the man at whom they had often trembled! Look at the black mark upon the faces of our persecutors, and we shall not run away from them. If God is in the quarrel as well as ourselves, it would be foolish to question the result, or avoid the conflict. Sodom and Gomorrah perished by a fiery hail, and by a brimstone shower from heaven; so shall all the ungodly. They may gather together like Gog and Magog to battle, but the Lord will rain upon them "an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone:" Ezekiel 38:22. Some expositors think that in the term "horrible tempest," there is in the Hebrew an allusion to that burning, suffocating wind, which blows across the Arabian deserts, and is known by the name of Simoom. "A burning storm," Lowth calls it, while another great commentator reads it "wrathwind;" in either version the language is full of terrors. What a tempest will that be which shall overwhelm the despisers of God! Oh! what a shower will that be which shall pour out itself for ever upon the defenceless heads of impenitent sinners in hell! Repent, ye rebels, or this fiery deluge shall soon surround you. Hell's horrors shall be your inheritance, your entailed estate, "the portion of your cup." The dregs of that cup you shall wring out, and drink for ever. A drop of hell is terrible, but what must a full cup of torment be? Think of it--a cup of misery, but not a drop of mercy. O people of God, how foolish is it to fear the faces of men who shall soon be faggots in the fire of hell! Think of their end, their fearful end, and all fear of them must be changed into contempt of their threatenings, and pity for their miserable estate.

Augustine: "He who said, �I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy,� loved Jacob of His undeserved grace, and hated Esau of His deserved judgment" (Enchiridion, xcviii).

John Gill wrote, "Thou hatest all workers of iniquity; not all that have sin in them or do sin, for there are none without it; but such who give themselves up to work wickedness, who make it the business of their lives, and are slaves unto it, living in a continued series and course of impiety; and this character does not only belong to openly profane sinners, but to some professors of religion . . . these are the objects of God's hatred. "

Gill " He hates all workers of iniquity and brings down his indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man that does evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile" (Rom. 2:8-9).

"But this is not the case in another world. The saints in glory will know concerning the damned in hell, that God never loved them, but that he hates them, and that they will be for ever hated of God. This hatred of God will be full declared to them; they will see it, and will see it in the fruits of their misery . . . God has declared his hatred of the damned . . . " On Knowing Christ, Jonathan Edwards, P. 250

Martin Luther: "the love and hate of God towards men is immutable and eternal, existing, not merely before there was any merit or work of �free-will,� but before the world was made; [so] all things take place in us of necessity, according as He has from eternity loved or not loved ... faith and unbelief come to us by no work of our own, but through the love and hatred of God" (The Bondage of the Will, pp. 226, 228-229).

Calvin "the reprobate are hateful to God, and with very good reason. For, deprived of his Spirit, they can bring forth nothing but reason for cursing" (Institutes 3.24.17).

Jerome Zanchius: "When hatred is ascribed to God, it implies (1) a negation of benevolence, or a resolution not to have mercy on such and such men, nor to endue them with any of those graces which stand connected with eternal life. So, �Esau have I hated� (Rom. 9), i.e., �I did, from all eternity, determine within Myself not to have mercy on him.� The sole cause of which awful negation is not merely the unworthiness of the persons hated, but the sovereignty and freedom of the Divine will. (2) It denotes displeasure and dislike, for sinners who are not interested in Christ cannot but be infinitely displeasing to and loathsome in the sight of eternal purity. (3) It signifies a positive will to punish and destroy the reprobate for their sins, of which will, the infliction of misery upon them hereafter, is but the necessary effect and actual execution" (Absolute Predestination, p. 44).

Francis Turretin: "For as he who loves a person or thing wishes well and, if he can, does well to it, so true hatred and abhorrence cannot exist without drawing after them the removal and destruction of the contrary" (Elenctic Theology, vol. 2, pp. 237-238).

Robert Haldane: "Nothing can more clearly manifest the strong opposition of the human mind to the doctrine of the Divine sovereignty, than the violence which human ingenuity has employed to wrest the _expression_, �Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.� By many this has been explained, �Esau have I loved less.� But Esau was not the object of any degree of the Divine love ... If God�s love to Jacob was real literal love, God�s hatred to Esau must be real literal hatred. It might as well be said that the phrase, �Jacob have I loved,� does not signify that God really loved Jacob, but that to love here signifies only to hate less, and that all that is meant by the _expression_, is that God hated Jacob less than he hated Esau. If every man�s own mind is a sufficient security against concluding the meaning to be, �Jacob have I hated less,� his judgment ought to be a security against the equally unwarrantable meaning, �Esau have I loved less� ... hardening [is] a proof of hatred" (Romans, pp. 456, 457).

A. W. Pink: "�Thou hatest all workers of iniquity��not merely the works of iniquity. Here, then, is a flat repudiation of present teaching that, God hates sin but loves the sinner; Scripture says, �Thou hatest all workers of iniquity� (Ps. 5:5)! �God is angry with the wicked every day.� �He that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God��not �shall abide,� but even now��abideth on him� (Ps. 5:5; 8:11; John 3:36). Can God �love� the one on whom His �wrath� abides? Again; is it not evident that the words �The love of God which is in Christ Jesus� (Rom. 8:39) mark a limitation, both in the sphere and objects of His love? Again; is it not plain from the words �Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated� (Rom. 9:13) that God does not love everybody? ... Is it conceivable that God will love the damned in the Lake of Fire? Yet, if He loves them now He will do so then, seeing that His love knows no change�He is �without variableness or shadow of turning!�" (The Sovereignty of God, p. 248).

John Murray: "[Divine hatred can] scarcely be reduced to that of not loving or loving less ... the evidence would require, to say the least, the thought of disfavour, disapprobation, displeasure. There is also a vehement quality that may not be discounted ... We are compelled, therefore, to find in this word a declaration of the sovereign counsel of God as it is concerned with the ultimate destinies of men" (Romans, vol. 2, pp. 22, 24).

Homer C. Hoeksema: "All history, in which vessels unto honor or unto dishonor are formed, is the revelation and realization of the counsel of God according to which He loved Jacob and all His elect people, but hated Esau and all the reprobate."

James Montgomery Boice: "although hatred in God is of a different character than hatred in sinful human beings�his is a holy hatred�hate in God nevertheless does imply disapproval ... [Esau] was the object of [God�s] displeasure ... " (Romans, vol. 3, p. 1062).

John MacArthur, Jr.: "In a very real sense, God hated Esau himself. It was not a petty, spiteful, childish kind of hatred, but something far more dreadful. It was divine antipathy�a holy loathing directed at Esau personally. God abominated him as well as what he stood for" (The Love of God, pp. 86-87).

D. A. Carson: "Fourteen times in the first fifty psalms alone, we are told that God hates the sinner, his wrath is on the liar, and so forth" (The Difficult Doctrine of the Love of God, p. 79).

Matthew Henry said, "Wicked people hate God; justly therefore are they hated of him, and it will be their endless misery and ruin . . . whosoever loves and makes a lie; nothing is more contrary than this, and therefore nothing more hateful to the God of truth . . . those that are cruel: Thou wilt abhor the bloody man; for inhumanity is no less contrary, no less hateful, to the God of mercy, whom mercy pleases. Liars and murderers are in a particular manner said to resemble the devil and to be his children, and therefore it may well be expected that God should abhor them."

 


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