On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 13:09:50 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
There was no ATTACK of any sister in my 'seeing'. There certainly
is NO
MERIT WHATSOEVER IN PURSUING THIS FURTHER. Get yourself a megaphone
and......
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > John wrote:
> > > How many times did I correct Judy prior to my complaint?
> >
> > Once.
> >
> > I received Judy's first post with the "comfortable in sin"
phrase
> on March
> > 27, 2005 at 2:57 pm. On March 28, 2005 at 8:19 am, I received a
> post from
> > you where you declared that Judy had completely rejected the
> gospel. You
> > said that she had no clue about faith being reckoned as
> righteousness and
> > that she was ever knowing and never learning. On the same day,
I
> received
> a
> > post from Judy at 11:52 am where she explains how she is not
> comfortable
> > with sin and that something is wrong with the concept of being
> comfortable
> > in sin. She explained that a person is doubleminded if he
thinks
> himself
> to
> > be righteous while at the same time is comfortable with sin. On
> 1:01 pm
> on
> > the same date, I received a post from you where you started to
> complain
> > about her phrase "comfortable in sin." You declared
Judy to be
> dishonest
> > and to be someone with whom you did not want to continue a
> discussion.
> >
> > John wrote:
> > > If you can count to five, you will have a chance at getting the
> right
> > > answer
> >
> > Count again, John.
> >
> > John wrote:
> > > Judy Taylor uses three very specific words and in
> > > this order "comfortable with sin."
Where did she
> > > get this specific wording?
> > > Hint: from a post I had sent to Terry before Judy stuck
> > > her nose into the thread. She is using my very words
--
> > > quoting, if you will.
> >
> > If she was using your very words, then why are you complaining?
> She did
> not
> > use your specific words. She read your phrase about being
> comfortable
> with
> > a person keeping their sin and she abbreviated it to the idea of a
> person
> > being comfortable with sin and a person being comfortable in
sin.
> Her
> logic
> > to do so was fine, but at this point, you felt that your position
> was
> being
> > misrepresented, but more than that, you started accusing her of
> misquoting
> > you. You keep vascilating back and forth from arguing that she
> used your
> > very words to arguing that she misquoted you. You can't have it
> both
> ways,
> > John.
> >
> > John wrote:
> > > How many times does one have to ignore and offer
> > > correction before the other becomes obvious in his/her
> > > offensive behavior?
> >
> > I'm sure Judy is wondering this the same as I do. How long do
we
> ignore
> and
> > offer correction toward you before you become obvious in your
> offensive
> > behavior? I would say we need to be upfront and speak what is
on
> our
> minds.
> > In other words, stop ignoring. Correct in the spirit of love
and
> meekness.
> >
> > John wrote:
> > > Why has she refused to acknolwdge her
"misunderstanding?"
> > > I find it nowhere in print.
> >
> > Because as it has now become clear, she is not
misunderstanding.
> Judy has
> > exposed the deception under which you and Gary are operating.
> >
> > John wrote:
> > > Why have you, David, decided to waste time in dealing
> > > with an issue that is of no ultimate merit?
> >
> > There is ultimate merit in this issue. First, there is the
merit
> of
> > understanding the truth. Second, there is the sister who has
> been
> attacked
> > and deserves some defense when she is in the right. Third,
there
> is the
> > problem of self deception that needs to be exposed in you.
> Fourth,
> judgment
> > comes upon those who bear false witness and offends one of these
> little
> > ones. Therefore, it behooves us to warn them of their error if
> per chance
> > God gives them opportunity to repent.
> >
> > John wrote:
> > > I have a right to complain of misrepresentation and
> > > misquotation if that is what I think took place.
> >
> > Of course you do, but if you are shown to be mistaken and you
> cannot prove
> > that she misquoted you, then you need to apologize for the false
> accusation.
> >
> > John wrote:
> > > I have a right to continue in that complaint when the
> > > offending person refuses to acknowledge my several
> > > explanations.
> >
> > There should be a limit to how often you continue to complain.
At
> some
> > point, both have spoken their mind. Also, when you are shown to
> be in the
> > wrong, you should be humble enough and gracious enough to admit
> it
> > (especially when you are harping about grace so much!).
> >
> > John wrote:
> > > I have (perhaps) a duty to continue the complaint when the
> > > offender selects a phrase from my post, divests that phrase
> > > from the written and immediate context, and pursues
her/his
> > > negativity.
> >
> > You should perhaps consider that you are perpetuating the
> negativity by
> not
> > hearing this dear Christian sister. If you agree with Judy's
> > uncomfortableness with sin, then you should be agreeing with her
> _expression_
> > of this instead of being offended because she understands your
> > comfortableness with the rigtheous keeping their sin as being
> abhorrent.
> >
> > Peace be with you.
> > David Miller.
> >
> >
> > ----------
> > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that
> you may
> know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)
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