Hey Kevin, you must have been a busy fellow tramping down the grass at the 
conference, huh?  (:>)  I chose not to go there, mainly because in my old age I 
was not feelin' quite up to it. 

Buy, hey, you and DavidM have it all wrong!!  A perfect God must have a perfect 
church.  Since such a phenomenon is not found among the  churches of the 
Protestant evangelical reformation, there had to be a restoration.  Every 
reformationist had a different slant, and many of them admitted they were just 
taking shots in the dark--many of them confessed the need for a restoration, in 
fact.  It is a false and misleading doctrine that there does not need to be a 
restored perfect church.  
Blaine
  
NO NEED for a restoration!
There was NO Total Apostacy. The Church has existed thru ALL AGES, the very 
Gates of HELL will not prevail 'oer' it AND no need for delivering a Restored 
Faith since the True faith was ONCE delivered never LOST! 
( and for you LDS - Joe never restored anything he just modified)
Ep 3:21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, 
world without end. Amen.
Mt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I 
will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common 
salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye 
should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.



David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
John S. wrote:
>> ... there was no time when the RIGHT CHURCH
>> EXISTED except in the Mind of God and via the
>> blood of Christ. The First Church was steeped
>> in legalism.

DAVEH:
> Is this a commonly accepted theory of Protestantism?
> LDS folks believe such thinking is flawed

It is somewhat common in Protestant circles to think this way, but not all 
Protestants think this way. John's background is the Church of Christ, 
which is a restorationist movement somewhat like Mormonism. Many of the 
Church of Christ sects have been labled as cults by other Protestants just 
like Mormonism has. One of the themes in the Church of Christ is to get 
back to first century Christianity. Apparently, John has rejected much of 
the Church of Christ teachings, and one of them is apparently the theme that 
there is some kind of perfect church that we need to restore.

In considering this question of whether or not it is possible to have a 
perfect church, I consider the churches addressed by Christ in the book of 
Revelation. I notice that two of the churches were without rebuke. That 
tells me that there have been churches that were perfect.

Peace be with you.
David Miller.  



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