Lance Muir wrote:
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From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Caroline Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: April 19, 2005 05:30
Subject: Fw: Post by Caroline
May I post this on TT?
Lance
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: April 18, 2005 18:59
Subject: Post by Caroline
This is a post by Caroline on another email group she is in. I thought
you may find it interesting:
Hi Matt;
You'll find the chapter where McLaren talks about God saving by judging
very
interesting. I think he is reacting against a certain teaching we've had
regarding what Jesus accomplished on the cross and salvation etc.
I was at a seminar today, (Victor Shepherd on Paul Molnar's "Divine
Freedom
and the Doctrine of the Immanent Trinity") and at one point Shepherd
declared Arianism is the worse of Docetism and Ebionitism and the church
is
90% of the time Arian. We were like huh? until a brave soul asked in Q&A
what he meant. He said Docetism is saying Christ Jesus is more God than
man
and Ebrionitism is saying Jesus Christ is more man than God. Arianism is
saying he is a third kind of category, neither God nor man but something
above man but below God.
Capturing the right Christology is a daunting task. Everything has to be
wrung through the Chalcedonian Creed. So here's my two bit attempt on
John
3:16. When Christ died and rose again, we all died and rose with him.
His
death atoned for the sins of all mankind. But even though he has
accomplished the reconciliation, some men will refuse to reconcile with
him.
However, we're to value each person as God has valued them and leave
final
destiny to God's judgment. While we're here, there are no IN/OUT
categories
but a continuum from those who have the fullness of Christ dwelling in
them
and those who have fully rejected Christ and we are to deal with one and
all
wisely in love. The warnings in John 3 are to leave darkness and death
and
follow Christ. We're not suppose to use it to figure out who's in and
who's
out. I think that's Abbott and Costello's job.
Love,
Caroline
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I don't know about ebionitism, but I know ebonics. Caroline been
exposed to weird teaching. Now Cariline be thinkin' weird!
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