Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment Begins at the House of God

[Debbie Sawczak]

Judy, you're partly right: I overstated it when I said that there is absolutely no difference between "#$%& you" and "You are of your father the devil". I really meant they are potentially the same when used to express a certain attitude towards the other person and ourselves. The same in the way that calling our brother a fool and murdering him are the same. And yes, people have said these or similar things to others on TT whose only "sin" is that they disagree.   BTW, I do not see that at all in those two 1 John verses. What do you see in Romans 9: 33, 34? But please note what I said re accountability to God for how I live, what I do with the freedom given to me. Do I ever shrink/feel shame at my behaviour? Yes. (Ask Lance.) Then I confess, turn, and continue walking. In contrast to David, I do need to do this more than once on many things. Do I live in fear of punishment? No, but it could be that I won't be given many, or any, cities to rule over--if I may use that metaphor. In short, for the last time: I don't take sin lightly. I acknowledge Christ as my Lord. I can't be any clearer.   David, I too am grateful for the use of this listserv.   Debbie   ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:57 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] Judgment Begins at the House of God   Debbie writes in part: 4. Extremely embarrassed to come before the Lord and have this brought up: (a) We are before the Lord at all times. (b) Do you really think he is logging incidents and shelving the ledger each time in order to bring it all up later? Forgive me, David, but your god sounds very much like the Accuser! God's agenda in saving us is to change us into the people he wants--as soon as possible. Throughout our lives, God draws our attention to things appropriate to our stage, and may take startling measures to do so when necessary (see various posts of Caroline's). The rest of what you say, about confessing and repenting, seems to suggest you agree with this. Why would he be saving it up in order to nail us with it? See #1. (c) There is absolutely no difference between "#($&%" and "You espouse a doctrine of demons" or "You are of your father the devil". The latter are just "good KJV biblical lingo". Besides, she wasn't saying it. She was quoting it. :-) Hi Debbie, you write: We are before the Lord at all times which is not what DM was referring to.  We will also stand before the Judgment Seat of Christ to answer for deeds we have done in the flesh - and yes, He will bring these up later (1 John 2:28,29) It's not as though he is "saving it up in order to nail us with it"  We are the ones saving it up if we are not dealing with it now while we have a measure of time. I see a big difference between "#($&%" and the terms DM uses.  I understand "#($&%" to be comic book cussing. Does it mean something different in Canada?  Also Caroline was "saying it" because I've not seen anyone else on TT using this kind of stuff so it is impossible for her to be quoting anyone here.