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Present tense/past tense? Older
Testament?
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Sent: April 24, 2005 01:14
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Caroline does not
seem to realize that her statement about Judiasm not having a concept of hell
is false. I have tried to point out to her that Jews have a wide
spectrum of beliefs about the afterlife. Some even believe in
reincarnation. That doesn�t mean this is an orthodox belief.
Izzy
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This image of hell may be true for you
but I don't get hell images from any of those places - However, I do
believe what Jesus had to say about it ie: weeping and gnashing of teeth
and I don't believe purgatory to be a scriptural concept. How is it that
you, as a professing believer, can be so dismissive about this and
why would you believe Judaism to have no concept of hell at
all? Can you tell me what reason they would have to believe that the
generation who perished in the wilderness went to Paradise - or that the men
who died fornicating with the Moabite women went to Paradise? Why did
God praise Phineas for his zeal in spearing that couple and why are these
things written as an example to us?
An allegory uses symbolism to
express truth. Jesus does this in his parable of the Rich Man and
Lazarus. That man wanted to go and warn his brothers not to come to that
place and he felt like he was burning up. I really don't believe
we worship the same God Caroline because He doesn't change and if not for
Moses' intercession He would have killed all of Israel over the golden
calf incident. Your allegory does not express this kind of truth, it
puts me more in mind of the children of Israel eating and drinking and rising
up to play .... There is a disconnect somewhere. Grace and
Peace, jt
We get most of our
hell
images from artists and poets and
cinematographers who came along way after Jesus' time. When Jesus was
preaching, he said Gehenna and that there would be weeping and gnashing of
teeth. The real question is whether God and the Jewish people had in mind a
place of eternal damnation and eternal conscious torture. There is a reason
why God spent so much time and effort to carve out a nation of chosen
people. Is it true that
Judaism is the only major world religion without the concept of
hell? Is this the
culture/religion/people, the context, where God's Good News come from?
But to answer your question, the
answer is no. Consider it an allegory :-)
Is that what your blog piece on hell is -
satire?
We could divide everyone
into The Reverend and The Reverent and start another conversation
here!
Here's a quote from the
FAQ of The Brick Testament re. whether The Reverend Brendan
Powell Smith is ordained.
Most ministers, priests, or other
religious clerics would not actually use "The Reverend" before
their own names, for
to do so would be presumptuous and rather vain. The Rev. Brendan
Powell Smith is not an ordained member of any earthly church, and is
widely regarded as being both highly presumptuous and extremely
vain.
The man knows satire! It's an interesting
take on the bible. I like the fact he puts warning labels on his
scenes. One almost forget the amount of nudity, sexual content,
violence and cursing there is.
Love,
Caroline
=================================================================== Since
reverend is a self imposed title, the only reasons to adopt such
a title would be pride or vanity. There are millions of
examples, including the reverend Jesse and the reverend Al. It
is a bogus title that anyone can use. Reverend
Terry
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