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And that, Kevin, would be your INTERPRETATION of
Scripture, would it not? Do we now have two 'infallibles' on TT? (I mean
only with respect to this issue)
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Sent: April 24, 2005 08:09
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk]
Hell
Hey we call all be right!
Except for ONE thing that gets in the way
This is ONE understanding of the matter, albeit
and, admittedly, the most widely held ONE.
May I take a moment to pay you a compliment?
Your demeanour has been, on the whole, most gracious in the last
while.
thanks,
Lance
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Sent: April 24, 2005 05:24
Subject: [Bulk] [TruthTalk]
Hell
From: "Lance Muir" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> IMPLICATIONS
IMPLICATIONS IFF He (Jesus) wasn't communicating what YOU think
He was communication then, what will you do?
I just found Elsman's response to BillW concerning
hell written a year ago today which you may find interesting; he makes a
good argument and I like his presentation ..... all from scripture - This
is one of his finer moments :-) So WDYT? jt
BILL,
YES, LET'S ALL HEAD FOR THE CITY OF
THE NEW JERUSALEM , ALL ON THIS FORUM.
RESPECTFULLY, YOU HAVE A TOUGH SCRIPTURAL CASE TO PROVE THAT THERE
IS A SECOND-CHANCE TO BE SAVED FROM SIN:
A. AFTER WE DIE.
B. AFTER THE "DAY OF THE LORD", IF WE ARE ALIVE
AT THAT TIME.
C. CERTAINLY, AFTER THE "NEW JERUSALEM" COMETH DOWN WITH
ITS RIVER OF LIFE.
I ASK YOU TO RE-EXAMINE REV.21: 6-8, WHEREIN THE DIE IS
CAST, I.E.
THE SINNERS SHALL "...HAVE THEIR PART IN THE LAKE WHICH BURNETH WITH
FIRE AND BRIMSTONE, WHICH IS THE SECOND DEATH."
THUS, I DID NOT SEE THE
"LAKE
OF FIRE" DEALT WITH IN YOUR VERY CREATIVE ANALYSIS
OF POETIC LICENSE, AS SOME WOULD SAY. SURELY, THE SINNERS WON'T BE
LOUNGING AROUND OUTSIDE THE CITY WALLS OF THE "NEW JERUSALEM", SOME
SEEKING TO BE SAVED AT THE LAST SECOND BY LAPPING LIVING WATER OF THE
RIVER OF LIFE.
INDEED, IT IS VERY CLEAR FROM REV. 22:11 THAT :
"...HE THAT
IS UNJUST, LET HIM BE UNJUST STILL, AND HE WHICH IS FILTHY, LET HIM BE
FILTHY STILL...."
IN OTHER WORDS, STATUS IS SET FIRMLY, NEVER TO CHANGE
WHEN WE GET BEYOND DEATH TO JUDGMENT, AS HEBREWS REMINDS US (
"...IT IS APPOINTED UNTO MEN ONCE TO DIE, AND THENCE COMETH THE
JUDGMENT...").
ALL THOSE MORMON AND CATHOLIC PRAYERS FOR THE DEAD---AND CEREMONIES AND
MASSES AVAILETH NOT. THE DIE IS CAST AT DEATH.
IN SHORT, IF YOU EVER SEE A SINNER THAT YOU KNEW IN THIS LIFE , AS HE
IS HEADING FOR THE LAKE OF FIRE, YOU CAN EXPECT HIM TO BE ANGRILY CURSING
GOD, NOT COVETING THE RIVER OF LIFE WATERS----EVEN THOUGH WATER WOULD BE A
BLESSING IN THAT LAKE, WHERE THE WORM DIETH NOT, AND THE FIRE IS NEVER
QUENCHED.
SINNERS ARE MORALLY INSANE IN A ROMANS 3 SENSE. SUCH IS THE
ALIENATION OF THE UNREPENTANT SINNER FROM HOLINESS-----EVEN IF, AS IS THE
CASE, THE CHRISTIAN'S ESSENTIAL HOLINESS IS VICARIOUS, SUBSTITUTIONARY AND
PROXY, VIA THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB JESUS THAT TAKETH AWAY OUR SINS.
HALLELUJAH!!! THAT IS THE WOW, WOW, WOW!!!---THAT HE WOULD DO THAT FOR
US!!!
----ELSMAN, THE LAWYER ARGUING HIS CASE FOR RIGHT-DIVISION
OF SCRIPTURE, FINELY-TUNED.
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