Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] More wisdom from Dallas Willard

[Caroline Wong]

Exactly! So how is David's holiness different? The Pharisees had the right attitude and beliefs to match their right actions. Unfortunately, they were all born pre-Einstein and did not know that things can look very different from another perspective. Reality is in the eye of the observer. They were doing great until Jesus told them to look at it from his point of view. :-)   Love,   Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] More wisdom from Dallas Willard The examples you give of "Holiness" do not take a Theolog to figure out that they are a pretense. Who would really believe such behavior is what makes one Holy? What is the difference between these and those OT Phar's? Men always love to fix the outside! It's easier than the wieghtier matters! God wants circumscribed hearts. Men do not. Caroline Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How interesting! To me (and perhaps some others), God was saying Job had a correct relationship with Him and spoke correctly about who He is but Job's friends got it wrong. They said Job was being punished by God for some sin that Job is not admitting. So, why was Job suffering? Also, did you come up with your list of requirements to meet the standard of holiness or is it something that a group agrees on? At one time, the Wesleyans felt wearing a tie was sin. Mennonites believe women should cover their hair at church. Amish men don't shave. If I were to join Wesleyan holiness, I would have to let my hair grow long without styling, not wear men clothing (i.e. pants), remove the bracelet my aunt gave me, only watch G movies and I think that's it. The rest I'm doing already (which tickles me to no end because it is natural to my simple soul :-). Being single, I don't even have to wrestle with the birth control issue. But what if I decided what holiness mean from my understanding of the bible in my relationship with my Triune God? Would that count? Love, Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] More wisdom from Dallas Willard > Caroline wrote: >> What is your record David or >> do you keep track? > > I don't keep track. Such is not wise because it is not my righteousness. > Even Job, who God testifies was perfect, said that he could not say that > he > was perfect (Job 9:20). > > Caroline wrote: >> Question: do we still have our original sin nature? > > Yes, just as much as Jesus did. > > Peace be with you. > David Miller. > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may > know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a > friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com