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James 1:19-20 My dear brothers, take note of this: Everyone should be quick
to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry, for man's anger does not
bring about the righteous life that God desires.
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Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 4:05
PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk]
[TruthTalk] Hell
They that hate me without a cause
are more than the hairs of mine head
WOW there just might be some OT precedent. Or was this added also?
Why is it that the Religious" "LOVE" crowd is always so judgemental and
have a word of knowledge at that. Since you got it from "the Spirit" it must
be right. How foolish
Amos 5:10 They hate him that rebuketh in the
gate, and they abhor him that speaketh uprightly.
I know that a modern 21st century Christian is
always positive always sweet like you. Too many sweets cause
Diabetes!
Correction is grievous unto him that
forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall
die.
I am not ANGRY just hateful and that NOT without a
cause!
The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride,
and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I
hate.
PS 97 Ye that love the LORD, hate evil
I have hated them that regard lying vanities: but I
trust in the LORD.
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest
all workers of iniquity.
I have hated the congregation of evil doers; and will
not sit with the wicked.
Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not
I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect
hatred: I count them mine enemies.
Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I
hate every false way.
Have I sinned in my words or just my attitude as you see
it?
Should I tone it down, be a nice modern effeminate
christian?
I guess you would have really been offended by some of those old
timers.
Even the Methodists.
Caroline Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
In high school, we were taught there is only
one answer to math equations and that there is a law of non-contradiction.
Later we learn electrons and light are both particle and wave and that math
equations can give you a range of answers or no answer at all.
Kevin, as your sister, I feel compelled by the
Spirit to tell you that you're an angry person and you enjoy being angry.
This is dangerous. 'nuff said.
Love,
Caroline
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 7:25
AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk]
[TruthTalk] Hell
You may like Coke I may like
Pepsi
BUT
There is only ONE correct answer to a math
equation
There is only ONE correct formula in
physics
Reality is unrelenting.
What is true for you is also true for
me.
It is a good thing you sell books not
design bridges!
Engineering "mistakes" cost dearly, so do
Theological ones!
Or are things different up there in
Canuckastan?
Lance Muir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
And that, Kevin, would be your
INTERPRETATION of Scripture, would it not? Do we now have two
'infallibles' on TT? (I mean only with respect to this
issue)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: April 24, 2005 08:09
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk]
[TruthTalk] Hell
Hey we call all be right!
Except for ONE thing that gets in the way
This is ONE understanding of the
matter, albeit and, admittedly, the most widely held
ONE.
May I take a moment to pay you a
compliment? Your demeanour has been, on the whole, most gracious in
the last while.
thanks,
Lance
----- Original Message -----
Sent: April 24, 2005
05:24
Subject: [Bulk] [TruthTalk]
Hell
From: "Lance Muir" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> IMPLICATIONS
IMPLICATIONS IFF He (Jesus) wasn't communicating what
YOU think He was communication then, what will you do?
I just found Elsman's response to BillW
concerning hell written a year ago today which you may find
interesting; he makes a good argument and I like his presentation
..... all from scripture - This is one of his finer moments
:-) So WDYT? jt
BILL,
YES, LET'S ALL HEAD FOR THE
CITY OF THE NEW JERUSALEM , ALL ON THIS FORUM.
RESPECTFULLY, YOU HAVE A TOUGH SCRIPTURAL CASE TO PROVE
THAT THERE IS A SECOND-CHANCE TO BE SAVED FROM SIN:
A. AFTER WE DIE.
B. AFTER THE "DAY OF THE LORD", IF WE
ARE ALIVE AT THAT TIME.
C. CERTAINLY, AFTER THE "NEW JERUSALEM"
COMETH DOWN WITH ITS RIVER OF LIFE.
I ASK YOU TO RE-EXAMINE REV.21: 6-8, WHEREIN THE DIE
IS CAST, I.E.
THE SINNERS SHALL "...HAVE THEIR PART IN THE LAKE WHICH BURNETH
WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE, WHICH IS THE SECOND DEATH."
THUS, I DID NOT SEE THE
"LAKE OF FIRE" DEALT WITH IN
YOUR VERY CREATIVE ANALYSIS OF POETIC LICENSE, AS SOME WOULD SAY.
SURELY, THE SINNERS WON'T BE LOUNGING AROUND OUTSIDE THE CITY
WALLS OF THE "NEW JERUSALEM", SOME SEEKING TO BE SAVED AT THE LAST
SECOND BY LAPPING LIVING WATER OF THE RIVER OF
LIFE.
INDEED, IT IS VERY CLEAR FROM REV. 22:11 THAT
:
"...HE THAT IS UNJUST, LET HIM BE UNJUST STILL, AND HE WHICH
IS FILTHY, LET HIM BE FILTHY STILL...."
IN OTHER WORDS, STATUS
IS SET FIRMLY, NEVER TO CHANGE WHEN WE GET BEYOND DEATH TO
JUDGMENT, AS HEBREWS REMINDS US ( "...IT IS APPOINTED UNTO
MEN ONCE TO DIE, AND THENCE COMETH THE JUDGMENT...").
ALL THOSE MORMON AND CATHOLIC PRAYERS FOR THE DEAD---AND
CEREMONIES AND MASSES AVAILETH NOT. THE DIE IS CAST AT DEATH.
IN SHORT, IF YOU EVER SEE A SINNER THAT YOU KNEW IN THIS LIFE ,
AS HE IS HEADING FOR THE LAKE OF FIRE, YOU CAN EXPECT HIM TO BE
ANGRILY CURSING GOD, NOT COVETING THE RIVER OF LIFE WATERS----EVEN
THOUGH WATER WOULD BE A BLESSING IN THAT LAKE, WHERE THE WORM
DIETH NOT, AND THE FIRE IS NEVER QUENCHED.
SINNERS ARE MORALLY INSANE IN A ROMANS 3 SENSE. SUCH IS
THE ALIENATION OF THE UNREPENTANT SINNER FROM HOLINESS-----EVEN
IF, AS IS THE CASE, THE CHRISTIAN'S ESSENTIAL HOLINESS IS
VICARIOUS, SUBSTITUTIONARY AND PROXY, VIA THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB
JESUS THAT TAKETH AWAY OUR SINS. HALLELUJAH!!! THAT IS THE WOW,
WOW, WOW!!!---THAT HE WOULD DO THAT FOR
US!!!
----ELSMAN, THE LAWYER ARGUING HIS CASE FOR
RIGHT-DIVISION OF SCRIPTURE, FINELY-TUNED.
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