Does His righteousness cover someone who continues to walk daily after the flesh ie:
the old Adamic flesh nature? IYO   jt
 
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:25:14 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
No. Imputation is not one my favourite words. When speaking of 'righteousness', I'm always referring to His and, not to ours.
 
The point of our conflict is expressed perfectly here Lance. I understand that you are speaking
of "imputed" wholeness (arn't you?) - like God doesn't see us as we are or something like that. 
The word holiness according to the Noah Webster 1828 dictionary is taken from the word "whole"
which is the process of sanctification that DM has been talking about.
 
Presently we are not whole ppl. We don't look or act like Jesus - we are not yet perfected
in love and many of us are wearing the curse He has redeemed us from in the form of sickness
and disease.  However, our hope is in Him and by faith (also a gift from Him) we will overcome
because He will cause us to stand.  Selah!  jt
 
 
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
'We are whole people living whole lives before a holy God.' The
dichotomization issue is central. Thanks for raising it! Please do 
not forward this message to Tim Horton's.


> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> >> Interesting too that the KJV on biblegateway.com has:
> >> 1 Peter 3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of
>
> >> plaiting
> > the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
> >>
> >> Does yours really say dresses? What year was it printed? And who
> was the
> > publisher? And if biblegateway is correct is Peter advocating
> nudist
> > colonies? :-)
> >>
> >> Now, if outward stuff is not important, then why did Peter bother
> writing
> > this? I have friends who were told by God (in an audible voice!)
> to stop
> > drinking coffee or to stop wasting food. What's with that??
> Perhaps we're
> > not to separate spheres of our lives into outer/inner,
> secular/sacred etc.
> > We are whole people living whole lives before a holy God.
> >>
> >> Love,
> >>
> >> Caroline
> >> >
> >> > From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > Date: 2005/04/28 Thu PM 01:14:04 EST
> >> > To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>
> >> > Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Rename: Dresses
> >> >
> >> > Interesting! Still proving that the point of the scripture is
> that it
> >> > is
> > not
> >> > the outward appearance that is important (to wear or not to
> wear
> > attractive
> >> > jewelry, outer garments, or fancy hairdos), but the appearance
> of the
> > inner
> >> > woman which only God can see.  Usually those who are overly
> consumed
> > with
> >> > the outer are neglecting (covering up) the inner. Izzy
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David
> Miller
> >> > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:01 AM
> >> > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> >> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rename: Dresses
> >> >
> >> > Perry wrote:
> >> > > Does anyone on on TT know exactly what first
> >> > > century "dresses" were and what Paul's objections
> >> > > to them were?
> >> >
> >> > Yes, Perry.  There has been quite a bit of discussion about
> this so you
> >> > should not have any trouble researching it.  The Greek word
> Peter uses
> > is
> >> > himation, which is exactly the same meaning as our English
> word
> > himation.
> >> > This is the outer garment worn by both men and women that
> primarily
> >> > functions aesthetically.  In Latin it is the palla for women
> and
> >> > pallium
> > for
> >> >
> >> > men.  Search on these words (himation, palla, pallium) and you
> should
> >> > be
> >> > able to find pictures and lots of information.
> >> >
> >> > It is important to note that modesty was NOT the issue here. 
> Rather,
> >> > it
> > was
> >> >
> >> > formal dressing.  In modern terms, it would be equivalent to
> women
> > adorning
> >> > themselves with that evening gown or prom dress along with
> make-up,
> > jewelry,
> >> >
> >> > braiding hair and putting it up, etc.  The himation was an
> outer
> >> > garment
> >> > worn over the tunic, so it would be like a man putting on a
> suit coat
> > over
> >> > his shirt.  The suit coat is to enhance his outer appearance. 
> Remove
> > the
> >> > himation completely, and the woman would not be naked or
> immodestly
> > dressed
> >> > anymore than a man would be when he removes his suit jacket.
> >> >
> >> > Peace be with you.
> >> > David Miller.
> >> >
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