They have boxed themselves in Izzy - because faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God and they can not receive the Word of God because ITO noone can rightly interpret same which is very sad..... I have to wonder if this is a sign of the times we are now living in.  judyt
 
On Tue, 10 May 2005 05:42:02 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Izzy's stance below is an attempt to have one's cake and eat it too: to live by a system in which all truth claims must be submitted to the criterion of "proof" while at the same time exercising, about this particular truth claim, a confidence that is independent of proof.  

Debbie

 

Where’d you get that assumption, Debbie?  My stance is no such thing—that is only your inference.  I never required “proof” to believe, and don’t require “proof” to continue to believe.  But, since you were the one to ask the question, if you COULD prove to me that Jesus wasn’t “real” I would have to no longer believe in Him, or live in total denial of actual proof.  That isn’t faith; it’s insanity. Faith triumphs over doubt—not over actual reality.  I can have all the faith in the world that the gravity doesn’t exist, but that doesn’t get me anywhere.  If God could be proven to not exist (I have a hard time even writing something so ridiculous) it would be foolish to continue to believe, as there would be no possible purpose or reward for it. 

 

Perhaps you have decided ahead of time to believe in spite of real proof to the contrary because you think it is possible that He can actually be proven untrue? I have no fear of it, and don’t go seeking after proof for that reason—I need no reassurance that Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life. He is my every breath. Izzy

 

 

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