Ad hominem alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Izzy (PS I can never spell that right!)
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 7:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] baptism It amazes me that could could ask this of Dave, Perry! ,at least without a 'smiley'. Kevin is a jerk and, he comes accross as one (I probably do as well) on TT. I bet he does 'on the street' also. It is such that give christianity a bad rep. He probably sees himself as 'suffering for the cause of Christ' whereas it's just the 'jerk factor' in play. Kevin:Speaking JtoJ we ought to keep this in mind. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: May 11, 2005 09:29 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] baptism > Dave, > > I can't understand why you do not hang on every word Kevin posts! He > backs up all of his biblical claims with scripture references, and not just > one or two, with several to many. He backs up what he claims about the > Mormon church with statements from your own non-prophets and leaders. He has > a passion for the Lord, and quite evidently has been called to use this > passion, and his knowledge of the Word, to spread the gospel. I would expect > him to act no differently on TT than he does on the street. Just because he > does not fit your idea of what Truth Talk should be does not mean that his > exchanges are not meaningful. In fact, in terms of proclaiming the gospel to > the unsaved, Kevin is probably doing more on TT than any other poster. He > steadfastly sticks to the message, not straying into the pseudo-intellectual > realms of so many posts. Those things are often titillating and fun to > ponder, but when it comes down to it, either you believe or you don't. > > Perry > > >From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] baptism > >Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 23:46:44 -0700 > > > >DAVEH: Nothing will make for easier discussions, IF one of the parties > >does not want to have a meaningful exchange, Kevin. I view TT as being a > >place where two or more people of contrasting opinions can explore why > >other's believe differently. I perceive that some TTers (such as yourself) > >are here not to have a meaningful discussion unless it results in the other > >person adopting your beliefs. Basically, you want to use TT as a forum to > >convert people to Christianity as you understand it...is that correct? > >Assuming so, you probably don't feel a need to find areas of common belief, > >but rather cut right to the chase and try to overwhelm your opponent with > >their error of thought/belief as you perceive it. Have I analyzed it > >correctly, Kevin? > > > > I harbor no illusions about changing your anti attitudes, Kevin. But I > >am curious as to why you are as you are (and why you believe as you do), if > >that makes any sense. It's just one of my hang-ups I suppose. So, every > >now and then you do reveal a bit about yourself, for which I am > >appreciative. But as I see it, you mostly put up a pretty thick wall > >hoping to wear your opponents down in their futile efforts to overcome that > >wall. Then you try to attack their perceived soft spot, hoping for a quick > >victory. > > > > That'll be $250 for your initial therapy session, please! :-D > > > >Kevin Deegan wrote: > > > >>Why does it make discussions easier????? > >> Do you mean it will disarm those rascal Anti's? > >> > >>*/Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > >> > >> DAVEH: I think it makes discussions much easier if common points > >> are first found, Kevin. > >> > >> Kevin Deegan wrote: > >> > >>> What is this Mormon preoccupation with finding all the things we > >>> have in common? > >>> Why would one want to find; lets say, for example, all the things > >>> they have in common with the devil? > >>> So what then; after we find what we have in common? > >>> > >>> */Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Charles Perry Locke wrote: > >>> > >>>>> DAVEH: Ohhhhhhhh....what an interesting response, Perry! > >>>>> I must say that I do find it rather curious that you would > >>>>> rather take a more vigorous new tack against my beliefs > >>>>> rather than discuss issues of theology common to both of us. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> It is not what we have in common that is the problem...it > >>>> is what we do NOT have in common. > >>> > >>> DAVEH: So you have no interest in discussing theology in an > >>> effort to see what we might believe in common? Maybe we have > >>> two different perspectives about TT, Perry. I view it as a > >>> place where people of divergent opinions can share ideas and > >>> quiz one another about their beliefs without feeling > >>> threatened or inviting a hard sell approach to change other > >>> people. I'm beginning to think you are here to do battle, so > >>> to speak. To you, TT merely is a place to convert people to > >>> your way of thinking. Am I reading you wrong on this? If > >>> not, then for what reason did you come to TT, Perry? > >>> > > > >-- > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Dave Hansen > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://www.langlitz.com > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >If you wish to receive > >things I find interesting, > >I maintain six email lists... > >JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, > >STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS. > > > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." 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