First, I didn't write that forgivess is stupid.  What I was telling you was that Jesus wants us to forgive, but not to be stupid.  If an enemy cames against you, again, and again, and again -- it would be stupid the think it that he would not do so another time.  I know that vengence belongs to the Lord, as most LDS Christians do.  We turn the other cheek over and over again.
 
As for not reading the 'extra books,' I say you are afraid of truth.  Either, that or you don't believe that God answers prayer.  I'm not afraid of truth and I know that God does answer prayer.
 
Further, you didn't even wait for an angel to deceive you.  You freely choose to be out of harmony with the Lord and the teaching of his apostles.  The New Testament, itself, is a witness against you.  The Lord organized His Church to have certain offices that are to be maintained  -- you reject that.  The Lord's Church has authority that is given to those in the ministry to administer the gospel -- you reject that.  The Lord organized only one Church and does not allow denominations -- you reject that.  Yes, you are already removed from the gospel that Paul preached.

Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Forgiving ppl is not stupid Raymond - and you can be sure what is in ones heart will come out of their mouths. When we forgive we are obeying Jesus and doing things God's way, (leaving the vengeance with Him) and this is when He will undertake for us as He has promised.  When we take thing upon ourselves - we're out there alone and we've got them.
 
I don't need to read the extra books to know they are false Raymond.  Paul (personally chosen by Jesus himself) wrote "But though we or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed" (Galatians 1:8) - which is pretty strong IMO.  judyt
 
On Sun, 15 May 2005 07:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Bothoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Judy--
 
Jesus teaches us to have forgiveness in our hearts, not to be stupid.  What they have done in the past; they have done again and again.  I expect it will continue.
 
As for the extra books  ---  I'm an LDS Christian; and I've read them and I know what's in them.  Why don't you read them and ask God if they are true?  Would you rather, as a non-LDS Christian, depend upon man for your answers or God?  I prefer to follow God and I know that God answers prayer.
 
--Raymond

Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Further proof that Mormonism is different from our Christian faith.  Jesus taught and demonstrated forgiveness even blessing those who oppose and curse you - and this is our example in spite of the NIV translaters who have tried to sabbotage by cutting off the end of Matt 5:44. I've learned that we are not responsible for the actions of others but
we are responsible before God for our own reaction to what they say and do.  The street preachers could be a test for you fellows - and if so it sounds like you have all flunked.  But then all these extra books of yours probably teach something different because it is against the adversary's best interests for you to make it.     judyt
 
On Sun, 15 May 2005 06:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Bothoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Raymond: It sounds like anger to me. Probably brought about because some people seek to harass us, intimidate us, threaten us, mock us, and refuse to leave us alone. Some people challenge us over and over. We answer, but it's as though they don't hear us. I guess that they really don't want to. They see something different, assume that it's wrong, and nothing will change their minds.

I believe that they would do worse if they could...... <snip>

Kevin: I have video of LDS cursing, threatening and spitting. If it is not an easily frustrated faith can you explain the spitting, cursing and threatening?

 

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