JD I personally believe that for everyone "brought to the Lord" via some form of the Screaming Ministry, there are dozens who effected in the very opposite way.
You brought it up, an expert on FRUIT.
As you admitted previously, you have no fruit, you can't understand the importance of the question which you raised.
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Back in my legalistic days, I used to actually keep a total of "converts." The good news is that I understand the message in clearer terms. I just got through (yes, this Sunday afternoon) counseling a woman who is having a problem that is effecting her marriage. This week, I will (by invitation) be sitting down with one of my contractors and sharing with him some of what is encouraging to me in terms of reconciliation. He is one who bailed out for nearly three weeks. No one could get ahold of him. But he wants to talk about the Lord. He is the one asking the questions. And I can say that my children are all concerned about their relationship with the Lord. How many Chrsitian dads get to say that !!!!! ???? It doesn't make me something special --- but it sure does give me a deeper sence of appreciation toward my God.Do you keep a running total of "converts." I really do not know anyone who does this. I really do not understand the importance of the question.
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From: Caroline Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sun, 15 May 2005 15:07:35 -0500
Subject: Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] baptism
I hope JD is ahead of you in that total----- Original Message -----From: Kevin DeeganSent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 3:11 AMSubject: Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] baptismHow many dozens have you affected?Remember you would not answer that one it is personal I suppose.This, of course, is not the objection. It is not "tolerance" that is in question, but effectiveness of ministry (not to mention rudeness). I personally believe that for everyone "brought to the Lord" via some form of the Screaming Ministry, there are dozens who effected in the very opposite way. I suppose that is why we see almost no street ministry out here on the left coast. Intervention ministries, benevolent ministries, home church programs, youth and campus ministries seem to be the things that work best and turn the lest number of people off.Jd --------- back at long last
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From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sat, 14 May 2005 12:19:26 -0400
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Caroline wrote: > Someone I don't know, trust, believe or even like shouting at me > stuff that is offensive to my ears is disturbing my right to peace > and quiet and my right to be unmolested and intimidated when > I enter my place of worship. Hmmm. Is there a problem with tolerance here? You don't have a right to quietness when you are outside your "place of worship" (place of worship? -- another topic that needs addressing at another time). When you are inside your "place of worship" then you have a right to quietness. Those who want quietness in public places do not really believe in free speech.
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