All they needed was the truth and the Holy Spirit. 
As Paul was preparing others for his departure:
Acts 20 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.

Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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I don't recall discussing "methods."   Just a comparison of messages, perhaps.   And I do not consider my way better than someone's elses.   But a rebuke without love is nothing more than hate speech.   I have seen the love in some of Ruben's writings.    I just hope that his street ministry has that passion as its base.   Drive by preaching is a waste of time.   Its when you stay and struggle with those who are being saved via your ministry that the tide is turned.   We have an equal responsibility to disciple those who are being saved.   I don't hear much about that around here.  
 
Jd
 
 
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Your comment may be true in some cases, but there are examples in the Bible that do not line up with what you suggest.  John, the Baptist rebuked with out love and Jesus called John the greatest man that ever lived.  Like Ruben, he was a fore runner.  He delivered the word and left the follow up to others.  An evangelist  often preceeds a pastor.

  When Paul came to Antioch, he preached for less than four months and was then run out of town.  He came back two years later to find a church that had grown to the point that Paul was able to appoint elders from among the local boys to oversee this church that had never had a pastor.  You may be right that the wimpy churches  of today could not function for two years with out someone to pat them on the head and pick up their toys, but real Christians have done it.  All they needed was the truth and the Holy Spirit. 


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