Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin

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The scripture quoted below is evidence that my thoughts are not "pure speculation."  There is nothing, in fact, that I believe that is not grounded in scripture.   Doesn't mean my thinking is right  --  but it (my thinking) comes from a desire to be biblically based.    If I do not understand correctly,   God will understand  --   because He knows that I am doing the best that I can.  Perhaps on the food chain, your IQ is a little higher than mine   ---   whose fault is that?    

 

Oh, and a father's patient and continued partnership with his children can never be described as "perverted love" by anyone who truly understands love.  

 

JD

 

 

 
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Subject: [TruthTalk] What is sin

 

Pure speculation JD - Since the Pope is already massively deceived believing himself to be the alter Christus why quote him?  You can use all these big theological words but plain fact is

Eve was deceived and Adam chose to go with her.  He chose the voice of the adversary over

obedience to the voice of God.

 

This is your own personal gospel which says you can be as deceived as you like and make

all the wrong choices and yet still make it because all that matters is some kind of perverted

love ... while truth continues to perish in the streets.   jt

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. sin--the disobedience of a prideful autonomy which impaired the human capacity to  ..... John Paul II

 

 

Think about it  !!! 

Reconciliation is a done deal, accomplished in the body of His flesh, at His death and inclusive of all of creation (Col 1:17ff),  but there remains those who are "lost" and "saved,"   All are reconciled  -  some are saved. - a problem .   Perhaps the demand on us is to change our thinking about those concepts.  They cannot have in view the same circumstance as "reconciliation,"  as I see it.   If reconciliation has a practical application, would that not include a partnership with God, as the Father, giving assistance (i.e. Philip 2:12-13) to those who are His while allowing us (all) to make decisions that are harmful to us on an ontological scale?   The reward we receive  for the practice of "salvation" would be "heaven."   The punishment we might experience as a result of refusing this partnership is not so much an assignme nt as it is a reasonable conclusion to the autonomy we have decided to persue?   As in the story of the prodigal  -  heaven (the home) was simply the end of the journey.   If that son had decided to remain in the pen,  his "reward" would have been that reality   --   the Father neither sending him there or DECIDING to reward if he returned.  

 

The definition above, from the thinking of John Paul, seems to be an excellent contribution to this subject. 

 

 

JD