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Try me. Dunce though I be, I have perused a book or
deux over the centuries.
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Sent: May 24, 2005 11:10
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[TruthTalk] Fond Farewells- Salvation
Only you, the truly Elite can read.
I have a few of his (Rushdooney) books too, in my personal
library, though something tells me it has few of the books that you sell in
the collection.
Gordon Clark!!!!!!!!???????? Read a book in the
last 30 years? Next you'll be quotin; R. J. Rushdooney to me.
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Sent: May 24, 2005 08:54
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LOL
CMON DM pick up some HUMILITY like Lance has.
Gordon Clark warned: "If man can know nothing truly, man can
truly know nothing. We cannot know that the Bible is the Word of God, that
Christ died for our sin, or that Christ is alive today at the right hand
of the Father. Unless knowledge is possible, Christianity is non-sensical,
for it claims to be knowledge. What is at stake in the twentieth century
is not simply a single doctrine, such as the Virgin Birth, or the
existence of Hell, as important as those doctrines may be, but the whole
of Christianity itself. If knowledge is not
possible to man, it is worse than silly to argue points of doctrine--it is
insane."
Lance Muir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I continually 'stone' DM, as you put it,
because he is in leadership. He should exhibit epistemological humility.
He should operate with open structures. He should know what ongoing
learning is. He is yet a babe but, one can get by on milk I suppose.
I'll bet TD hasn't read Dallas Willard.
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Sent: May 24, 2005 06:31
Subject: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] Fond
Farewells- Salvation
Are you claiming that the fact that DM is
detail oriented is what ran B,C&D off? The "accuser" is back
with a
vengeance and he just loves to play the blame game on TT. Of course IYO Bill
et. al. are blameless.? My
daughter teaches second grade and
what she reports sounds nothing at all like
DM. Why do you continually
verbally stone David Miller and now
his daughter? For ppl who profess and
are so caught up in God's love
this kind of behavior is inexcusable.
Remember love covers the multitude of sin
so even if he were at fault
your behavior condemns you
remember we reap according to how we
sow - jt
When you're right...........Sad ain't
it?
In you statment below, you
initiate your "discussion" with falsehood -- the claim
that I am confused and you are not. Grade school
combat tactics. Just plain silly. Why did
Bill leave -- and probably Caroline and Debbie? They got of
the tactic "win at all costs." You , especially, have
potential, what with your eduational backgroudn (PhD and
all). But you argue like a school kid.
"Here's the probelm, John -- I am better than
you." "Aaahh, no you're not ?" "YES I AM AM
!!!' " No you're not." "Yes I am
too."
See the second grade
tactic.? David says "Oh, now I see the crux of the
matter: I follow the Bible and John doe
not." Great response. Perhaps
intellectually challenging to some in your camp, but it is a
response that avoids the conflict, builds you up in your own
eyes (and Izzy's -- she will now say that
I was defeat simply because you said I was
confused.)
In P3, you argue that
you are in the apostles teaching and I am not. You do
not teach justification apart from obedience to
law. You do not teach Christ as a substitute for in
terms of faith and righteousness. You do not believe the law
to be a "burden" although Peter felt this way. You think
hell in somewhere near Compton. You do not know the
fdifference between the old sacrifices and the new. You
consider yourself an apostles on a par with Paul and Peter
!!! You tout the rationalism of your thinking and call
it enlightenment. I could go on
--------------------- or would you prefer discussing
the issue?
Dinner time. Look for
Post II in this series, coming to your house in the near
future.
JD
What denominational association do you maintain
and/or What denominational association is the church you now
attend? Your answer to these questions has a lot to do with how I
respond to this post. You know my
afflication. What is yours?
JD
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David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
[email protected]Sent: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:27:07
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Salvation
David Miller wrote:
>> John 20:22-23
>> (22) And when he had said this, he breathed on them,
>> and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
>> (23) Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto
>> them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
John wrote:
> You are not included in this; neither am I.
> I see the apostles as having a very different relationship
> with the Christ than anyone else.
P 3 This is the crux of our difference then: doubt and unbelief concerning the
reality of the kingdom of God. I abide in the apostles' doctrine and
believe that all that they were instructed in by Jesus the Christ applies to
everyone who believes in Jesus Christ. Jesus told the apostles:
Matthew 28:19-20
(19) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of
the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
(20) Teaching them to observe ALL THINGS WHATSOEVER I HAVE COMMANDED YOU:
and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Paul said:
Philippians 3:17
(17) Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as
ye have us for an ensample.
Concerning the gift of the Holy Ghost that Jesus connected with the
retaining or remitting of sins in John 20:22-23, Peter said:
Acts 2:38-39
(38) Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in
the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the
gift of the Holy Ghost.
(39) For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and TO ALL THAT ARE
AFAR OFF, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Do you speak in tongues, John? Just how much of the Bible are you not
included in?
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
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