Yes, I am. Thanks for asking.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: May 25, 2005 14:49
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin


> Are you enjoying your politically irrelevant rants Lance?  First you say
we
> should forgive all debts against the USA, then you make remarks that we
are
> going to go bankrupt because of the debts, etc.  The Bible says lend and
do
> not ask in return. That's basically what we do.  We don't worry about.
I'm
> sorry you lose sleep over it.  Izzy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 4:05 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin
>
> I understand that monies owed the US total 3 trillion. The 'debt' owed the
> US by Europe, Canada and, many other parts of the globe for it's aid in
both
> dollars and lives is incalculable. This issue though connected, needs to
be
> evaluated separately from the current state of affairs in your country.
>
> Jesus' Gospel of the inbreaking of the reign of God excludes nothing. The
> Gospel of the kingdom (Lk 16) suggests that cultural and, political
> awareness are imperative. The privatization of the gospel (personal
> salvation to the exclusion of all else) is a shortcoming.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Christine Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: May 24, 2005 16:38
> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin
>
>
> >
> > > 'Lance....isn't 'that'(?) a red
> > > herring?'
> > > LM responds: How so,
> > > Christine?
> >
> > A red herring is an argument that distracts the
> > audience from the issue in question by introducing
> > some irrelevancy. Your speculation that my father is
> > not culturally connected is irrelevant to the topic.
> > Judy picked up on your subject-change, and I agreed
> > with her: you seemed to be dodging the question.
> >
> > > CM asserts that I equate cultural awareness with
> > > cultural brainwashing. LM
> > > asks:Using the context of my post kindly demonstrate
> > > this assertion.
> >
> > Well, this is what Judy said (and what I encouraged
> > you to answer):
> >
> > > Have you also tallied up third world debt?
> > > > > Money owed the US by other nations, and the cost
> > > of Canada's irresponsibility the times they opted
> > > out and reaped the benefits anyway?  Someone always
> > > pays the price... It is hopelessly naive to think
> > > that if noone does anything - things will right
> > > themselves. Would Europe be  Western today if
> > Charles > Martel had not beaten back the Islamic hoard
> > when they > got to Spain?  jt
> >
> > And your response was:
> >
> > > The vortex of the whirlpool awaits. Why not
> > > ask 'the prophet' if he sees connections where you
> > > and Iz do not? He just might surprize you. If he
> > > did, by the by then, he'd really surprize me! I
> > > believe him to be largely culturally disconnected. I
> >
> > > trust that Christine briefs him when she's home.
> >
> > You did not answer Judy's post. You brought up
> > something irrelevant, and ignored the merits of her
> > argument. My father's cultural awareness has nothing
> > to do with Judy's point.
> >
> > Judy's post is still unanswered.
> >
> >
> > Blessings,
> >
> > Christine
> >
> >
> > --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > CM asks of me:'Lance....isn't 'that'(?) a red
> > > herring?' LM responds: How so,
> > > Christine?
> > >
> > > CM asserts that I equate cultural awareness with
> > > cultural brainwashing. LM
> > > asks:Using the context of my post kindly demonstrate
> > > this assertion.
> > > Further, CM asserts that I equate knowledge and
> > > belief. I do not. I did
> > > however, suggest a viewing of The Corporation
> > > together. When you've done so
> > > we might then have a discussion.
> > >
> > > CM suggests that Jt refers to something about paying
> > > the price for something
> > > or other. Kindly explain along with the logical
> > > fallacy I fell prey to.
> > >
> > > Well done young lady. You have the fancy footwork of
> > > your father. You may
> > > have a career in the ring.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Christine Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: May 24, 2005 14:35
> > > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin
> > >
> > >
> > > > JT wrote:
> > > > > Lance I find it curious that no matter what the
> > > > > subject you are ALWAYS able to revert the
> > > discussion
> > > > > back to
> > > > >   something critical of David Miller.
> > > >
> > > > Judy asserts an interesting point there, Lance.
> > > Isn't
> > > > that called a red herring?
> > > >
> > > > Also, you seem to equate cultural awareness with
> > > > cultural brainwashing. I am not persuaded by the
> > > elite
> > > > media, nor the liberalism of our foreign
> > > neighbors.
> > > > You imply that if only my father or myself KNEW
> > > the
> > > > popular, anti-American sentiments of today, we
> > > would
> > > > then have no choice but to agree.
> > > >
> > > > Now, why don't you answer Judy's response about
> > > > someone always paying the price? Her point was
> > > > excellent and I have a feeling that is why you
> > > > reverted to a logical fallacy.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Blessings,
> > > >
> > > > Christine
> > > >
> > > > PS- My father is not culturally unaware. He is my
> > > best
> > > > friend. You speak of him as if he were barely
> > > human,
> > > > and you seem to scorn the Lord's annointing on
> > > him.
> > > >
> > > > --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Why? By osmosis she just might, via her peers,
> > > > > assimilate some cultural awareness.
> > > > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > >   From: Judy Taylor
> > > > >   To: [email protected]
> > > > >   Cc: [email protected]
> > > > >   Sent: May 24, 2005 07:02
> > > > >   Subject: [Bulk] [TruthTalk] What is sin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   Lance I find it curious that no matter what
> > > the
> > > > > subject you are ALWAYS able to revert the
> > > discussion
> > > > > back to
> > > > >   something critical of David Miller. So you
> > > don't
> > > > > believe he has a spiritual gifting? This
> > > reflects
> > > > > more upon where
> > > > >   you are than whether or not he is used by God
> > > in
> > > > > this dimension.  Also you are doubletalking.
> > > You
> > > > > just got
> > > > >   through calling Christine a carbon copy of her
> > > dad
> > > > > - so why would she need to be briefing him IYO?
> > > jt
> > > > >
> > > > >   On Tue, 24 May 2005 06:51:05 -0400 "Lance
> > > Muir"
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > >     The vortex of the whirlpool awaits. Why not
> > > ask
> > > > > 'the prophet' if he sees connections where you
> > > and
> > > > > Iz do not? He just might surprize you. If he
> > > did, by
> > > > > the by then, he'd really surprize me! I believe
> > > him
> > > > > to be largely culturally disconnected. I trust
> > > that
> > > > > Christine briefs him when she's home.
> > > > >       From: Judy Taylor
> > > > >
> > > > >       Have you also tallied up third world debt?
> > > > > Money owed the US by other nations, and the cost
> > > of
> > > > > Canada's irresponsibility the times they opted
> > > out
> > > > > and reaped the benefits anyway?  Someone always
> > > pays
> > > > > the price... It is hopelessly naive to think
> > > that if
> > > > > noone does anything - things will right
> > > themselves.
> > > > > Would Europe be  Western today if Charles Martel
> > > had
> > > > > not beaten back the Islamic hoard when they got
> > > to
> > > > > Spain?  jt
> > > > >
> > > > >       On Tue, 24 May 2005 04:35:15 -0400 "Lance
> > > > > Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > >         Mr. Rogers says (from the neighborhood
> > > in
> > > > > the sky) 'hey kids, can we say seven trillion,
> > > nine
> > > > > hundred and thirty-seven billion?' Bankruptcy
> > > > > awaits.
> > > > >           From: Kevin Deegan
> > > > >           First you must have one.....
> > > > >
> > > > >           Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >             Why would we be? We are not invading
> > > > > countries to build an empire.
> > > > >               From: ShieldsFamily
> > > > >               I'm sure you and Canada are not
> > > being
> > > > > judged for anything at all.  How lovely for you.
> > > > > Izzy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >               From:
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf
> > > > > Of Lance Muir
> > > > >               You, collectively, are being
> > > judged
> > > > > now for your consumerist, religious, non-kingdom
> > > > > building (see Dallas Willard on this), dualist,
> > > > > gnostic approach to what should be an embodied
> > > > > gospel. God may well be using 'them' to judge
> > > you.
> > > > >
> > > > >                 From: Judy Taylor
> > > > >
> > > > >                 Would you rather have mid east
> > > cloak
> > > > > and dagger along with muslim violence and
> > > insanity.
> > > > > Also how can you be
> > > > >
> > > > >                 so sure that God is not involved
> > > > > with what is happening in the middle east. How
> > > are
> > > > > you so sure it is not the time
> > > > >
> > > > >                 of Iraq's visitation?  Through
> > > > > history God has always used one nation to judge
> > > > > another.  Yes, the US will be
> > > > >
> > > > >                 judged also but - IN GOD'S TIME
> > > -
> > > > > Not Lance's.  jt
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >                 On Mon, 23 May 2005 09:18:21
> > > -0400
> > > > > "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > >
> > > > >                   'If' is the operative wordy,
> > > Izzy.
> > > > > Given GWB's track record, it isn't looking
> > > hopeful.
> > >
> > === message truncated ===
> >
> >
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