Do you think it is possible to know the truth from the Word, Lance? And if so, don't we have a responsibility to that truth?
Blessings! --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's apparent. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kevin Deegan > To: [email protected] > Sent: May 25, 2005 15:32 > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: > [TruthTalk] mormon angels. was: Dave uses Socratic > Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT > > > According to Lance's Narnia Theory of > Interpretation and Post Modern Biblical Relativism, > we can never really know what Lance is trying to > communicate! > > Christine Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I do see your point and I do agree. But the > Bible > speaks to be understood, and it is written to > inform > us. We must interpret, that's true, just as I > must > interpret your post when I read it. > > The Bible is very clear on what it means to be a > child > of God and a brother of Jesus. It requires > interpretation to communicate at all, but when > something is stated blankly (John 1:12), how > much spin > can we add before we are misinterpreting? > Perhaps I > could have said "misinterpret" instead of > "disregard," > but I do believe the Mormons are genuinely > ignoring > the Bible's stance on this one. > > Blessings! > > --- Lance Muir wrote: > > > Christine:Please! One need not disregard the > Bible > > to believe anything. One > > need only disregard your interpretation. What > you > > find to be the plain > > meaning of something is not necessarily what > another > > thoughtful believe > > might find. Agreed? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Christine Miller" > > To: > > Sent: May 25, 2005 13:36 > > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] > mormon > > angels. was: Dave uses > > Socratic Method of Teaching LDS doctrine on TT > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.towertotruth.net/Mormon/witnessing/terminology.htm > > > > > > What a wakeup call. I followed this link and > found > > > this: > > > > > > JESUS CHRIST: > > > > > > LDS--A created being, the first spirit child > of > > Elohim > > > and one of his wives, the spirit brother of > > Lucifer > > > the devil. > > > > > > So Jesus and Satan are BROTHERS? I thought > Jesus > > was > > > my brother: Romans 8:29, "For whom he did > > foreknow, he > > > also did predestinate to be conformed to the > image > > of > > > his Son, that he might be the firstborn > among many > > > brethren." Paul is clearly talking about our > > adoption > > > by God the Father, who becomes our Father > when we > > > "receive" His son (John 1:12) when he says > earlier > > in > > > verse 19: "For as many as are led by the > Spirit of > > > God, they are the sons of God." Lucifer is > not led > > by > > > God's Spirit. He is engages in warfare > against > > God's > > > Spirit. And he certainly has not received > Jesus. > > > > > > To believe these things, one must first > disregard > > the > > > Bible. > > > > > > Blessings, > > > > > > Christine > > > > > > --- Kevin Deegan wrote: > > > > > > > There was a significant word game going on > when > > I > > > > first arrived on this forum. LDS using > words > > that > > > > seemed intended to cloak the true LDS > > understanding. > > > > I think the christians here have a far > better > > > > understanding of mormonism now then in > past > > years > > > > > > > > There are words that are familiar to > christians > > that > > > > have a different meaning to LDS > > > > Word Christian LDS meaning > > > > Gentile NON Jew - NON LDS > > > > angel created spirit being - ressurected > man > > > > Virgin birth > > > > Gospel > > > > Fall bad -good > > > > Jesus Christ > > > > Godhead Trinity - committee composed of > gods > > > > including SATAN > > > > council in heaven - The meeting in the > premortal > > > > life of the Godhead and spirits designated > for > > this > > > > earth, in which the plan of salvation was > > presented. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/basic/premortal/Council_EOM.htm > > > > At a certain point in the council, the > Father > > asked, > > > > "Whom shall I send [as the Redeemer]?" > Jesus > > Christ, > > > > known then as the great I AM and as > Jehovah, > > > > answered, "Here am I, send me," and agreed > to > > follow > > > > the Father's plan (Moses 4:1-4; Abr. > 3:27). As a > > > > counter-measure, Lucifer offered himself > and an > > > > amendment to the Father's plan of saving > mankind > > > > that would not respect their agency > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.towertotruth.net/Mormon/witnessing/terminology.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > Charles Perry Locke wrote: > > > > David, Dave is smarter than you are giving > him > > > > credit for being. He knows > > > > what he is doing. He is playing a word > game. I > > have > > > > no problem with him > > > > pushing his mormon views into the > discussions > > > > here...I just want him to > > > > acknowledge that is what he is doing. He > is > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." 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